Calculating Spring and Damping Constants for a Car Suspension System

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The problem involves calculating the spring constant and damping constant for a car suspension system based on the sag of the chassis and the rate of oscillation damping. The context is rooted in mechanics, specifically focusing on oscillatory motion and damping in a physical system.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the spring constant using the relationship between weight and displacement. There is also a focus on determining the damping constant through the decay of oscillation amplitude. Questions arise regarding the time variable used in calculations and the interpretation of the damping rate.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between amplitude and damping, while others express confusion about the mathematical expressions and their application. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to derive the damping constant, with some participants sharing their calculations and adjustments based on feedback.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the damping rate is consistent and that the system behaves according to the principles of harmonic motion. There is a noted discrepancy in the initial calculations, prompting further discussion on the correct application of formulas.

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Homework Statement


The suspension system of a 2200 kg automobile "sags" 14 cm when the chassis is placed on it. Also, the oscillation amplitude decreases by 55% each cycle. Estimate the values of (a) the spring constant k and (b) the damping constant b for the spring and shock absorber system of one wheel, assuming each wheel supports 550 kg.

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I found k by making mg=-kx
k=38500 N/m
part B i found it to be 876 kg/s.
However, this answer is wrong.
I'm not sure what's wrong here but the formula I used works with everyone elses example.
e ^ (-bt / 2m) = 55/100
I found T to be 0.751 using T=2pi radical (m/k)
 
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What did you use for t when solving for b?
 
The oscillation damping rate is BY 55% every cycle, hence we have:

x(t+T)=x(t)-0.55\cdot x(t)=0.45\cdot x(t)
 
To NBAJam100: I used the T I found
To Thaakisfox: I don't really understand what you wrote. It looks confusing. Not sure how to apply it.
 
Well you want to find the ratio of the amplitudes between cycles.
At time t let the position be x(t). Let the period of oscillation be T. Then the position after one cycle will be: x(t+T).

But we know the x(t) function, so:

\frac{x(t+T)}{x(t)}=e^{-bT/2m}

But it is also given that the amplitude decreases BY 55% every cycle, so:

x(t+T)=x(t)-0.55x(t)=0.45x(t) \Longrightarrow \frac{x(t+T)}{x(t)}=0.45

Combining these you will get the result...
 
Oh, I see. That makes a lot of sense. Then I just plug it in and I got 1170kg/s. My confusion with the capital and lower t's got me mixed up. Thankyou very much. =]
 

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