Calculating Tension for 2000kg Elevator at Rest

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The problem involves calculating the tension in a 2000 kg elevator at rest, utilizing free-body diagrams and relevant physics principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between tension and normal force, questioning how they can coexist on the same axis. There is an exploration of the forces acting on the elevator, including weight and tension, and the implications of the elevator being at rest.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into the forces involved and questioning the definitions and relationships between tension and normal force. Some guidance has been provided regarding free-body diagrams and the balance of forces, though there is still uncertainty about specific conditions of the elevator's state.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions of forces and their roles in the context of the problem, with some ambiguity regarding whether the elevator is hanging or on the ground, which affects the interpretation of forces involved.

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Homework Statement


An elevator, complete with contents, has a mass of 2000 kg. By drawing free-body diagrams and by performing the neccesary calculations, determine the value of T ( tension) when
a) the elevator is at rest


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i don't get how FN and T can be on the same Y axis together? any idea?
 
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What is FN ?
 
normal force
 
what do you think tension is?
 
tension is the normal force?
 
What normal force?
 
SammyS said:
What normal force?

the force that balance out weight ? o,o
 
Start by drawing the FBD. In this case, its just the y (vertical) component: m*g(weight) DOWN , tension(whats being pulled) UP. The sum of all forces(vectors so set positive and negative values for direction) equals mass*acceleration. But remember that constant velocity or at rest indicates 0 acceleration. The sum of the two forces are equal to zero. You are given the mass, and gravity(g) is 9.8m/s^2, but T is unknown. This is as much as i can do.
EDIT: is it at rest hanging, or on the ground... if the latter then ^ is wrong
 
Tension is related to normal force, but it has everything to do with a force in an object such as a rope or something springy at the molecular level. It's the force that keeps the object that it holds from accelerating a bit like normal force. I believe that the normal force keeps gravity from accelerating an object during contact of earth, because of inertia (resistance to gravity). So, how do you think you can turn these words into solving this problem?
 
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"It's the force that keeps the object that it holds from accelerating a bit like normal force"

I'm not sure if my words were exactly correct here, because I think I have done a few problems where an acceleration still existed o.O? but I hope you get the point.
 
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that quote applies to this prblem though!
 

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