Calculating the expected value for a probability

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The discussion revolves around calculating the expected profit for an ice-cream store based on varying demand distributions and production levels. The problem involves understanding how to apply probability to profit calculations in a business context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore how to calculate expected profit based on different demand scenarios and production limits. There is confusion regarding whether to include demand for 200 ice-cream balls when only 150 can be produced. Questions arise about the implications of demand exceeding production on profit calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to clarify their understanding of expected profit calculations. Some have proposed calculations based on their interpretations, while others have pointed out potential oversights regarding costs and revenue. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet, but the discussion is progressing with various interpretations being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the assumptions they can make. The problem requires careful consideration of how production levels affect profit in relation to demand.

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An ice-cream store makes 150 ice-cream balls every day. The cost of making each ice-cream ball is $3. The price of an ice-cream ball is $8. The demand distribution is as follows: 100 ice-cream balls with probability 25%, 150 ice-cream balls with probability 50%, and 200 ice-cream balls with probability 25%
a. What is the store’s expected profit every day?
b. If the store decides to make 200 ice-cream balls every day, what is the store’s expected profit every day?

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I'm confused whether i should use the probability for 200 ice-cream for part a since the store can only produced 150 ice-cream balls every day. But for part b, i should use the probability for 200 ice-cream balls, right?
 
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samchan5167 said:
I'm confused whether i should use the probability for 200 ice-cream for part a since the store can only produced 150 ice-cream balls every day.
Use it. The demand for 200 is relevant. Demand is not necessarily satisfied by sales. If the demand is 200 and only 150 are produced, you assume 150 are sold.
 
Thanks! If this is the case then, the two questions will have the same answer?
This is my solution:
profit=8-3=5
expected profit per day=5(100)(25%)+5(150)(50%)+200(5)(25%)
Is this right?
 
samchan5167 said:
Thanks! If this is the case then, the two questions will have the same answer?
This is my solution:
profit=8-3=5
expected profit per day=5(100)(25%)+5(150)(50%)+200(5)(25%)
Is this right?

Why would you think both solutions have the same expected profit? In one case if customers order 200 you can only sell them 150; in the other case you sell them 200, so the expected revenue goes up. Of course, the "manufacturing" cost also goes up (because you make more), so some additional calculations are needed to assess the net effects.
 
Go back to first principles. What is the expectation value of a discrete random variable? It's the sum of the values of that variable times the probability it has that value. Don't blindly throw numbers around, THINK.

Expected profit per day = ##\sum \text{Profit}(n_i \text{ sales}) \text{Probability}(n_i \text{ sales})##

Now, here is where you are going wrong. You need to carefully think through what is the profit (revenue minus costs) in each of the possible cases.

First, it is assumed that they go ahead and make 150 at the beginning of each day, not knowing what they're going to sell. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.

There could be a demand for 100, so they could sell 100. What is their revenue from sales? What did they spend at the start of the day? So what is their profit?
There could be a demand for 150. How many would they sell? What is their revenue from sales? What did they spend at the start of the day? So what is their profit?
There could be a demand for 200. How many would they sell? What is their revenue from sales? What did they spend at the start of the day? So what is their profit?

These are the questions which you need to think through. Also, these are the questions which do not necessarily have the same answers for parts (a) and (b).
 
i get it now...
so for part a:
profit for demand 100 = 100(8-3)=500
for 150 = 150(8-3)=750
for 200 = 150(8-3)=750
so expected profit = 500(25%)+750(50%)+750(25%)=687.5

for part b:
expected profit=500(25%)+750(50%)+1000(25%)=750
thanks for the thorough explanation
 
Closer. But you've missed something about the costs. Reread the problem again, and reread what I said.
 
part a:
(100x8-150x3)(25%)+150(5)(50%)+150(5)(25%)=650

part b:
(100x8-200x3)(25%)+(150x8-200x3)(50%)+200(5)(25%)=600
 
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