Calculating the expected value of a dice roll

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The discussion centers on calculating the expected value of a dice roll in a board game where rolling a 1 results in moving 6 steps instead of 1. The initial probability distribution presented is incorrect, as it fails to account for all possible outcomes properly. The expected value calculation should include the contributions from all outcomes, specifically using the correct probabilities for each possible dice roll. The correct expected value calculation leads to a different result than the book's answer of 11/3, indicating a misunderstanding in the setup. Ultimately, the correct approach involves summing the probabilities multiplied by their respective outcomes accurately.
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Homework Statement
In a boardgame you move forward the amount of steps that the dice roll. Except if the dice show 1 you move 6 steps. Calculate the Expected Value.
Relevant Equations
E(x) = sum(g(k) * p(k))
I write p(k) as:
$$p(k) = 1/6, k = 2,3,4,5$$
$$p(k) = 2/6, k = 6$$

Is that wrong?
Because then the expected value becomes
$$1/6 * 4 + 2/6 * 6 = 8/3$$

While my book says 11/3
 
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Addez123 said:
Homework Statement:: In a boardgame you move forward the amount of steps that the dice roll. Except if the dice show 1 you move 6 steps. Calculate the Expected Value.
Relevant Equations:: E(x) = sum(g(k) * p(k))

I write p(k) as:
$$p(k) = 1/6, k = 2,3,4,5$$
$$p(k) = 2/6, k = 6$$

Is that wrong?
Because then the expected value becomes
$$1/6 * 4 + 2/6 * 6 = 8/3$$

While my book says 11/3
Well, ##8/3 < 3##, which is less than you'd expect if ##1## counted as ##1## and not ##6##.

Your problem seems to be that you didn't count throws of ##2,3## or ##5##.
 
PS The book's answer looks wrong. Assuming I've understood the rules.
 
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I don't get the book answer.

Edit: Beaten by @PeroK
 
Addez123 said:
$$p(k) = 1/6, k = 2,3,4,5$$
$$p(k) = 2/6, k = 6$$
Is that wrong?
Because then the expected value becomes
$$1/6 * 4 + 2/6 * 6 = 8/3$$
No, it doesn’t become that.
In your last step, you multiplied the 1/6 by the number of cases with that probability, not by the number of steps taken in those cases.
 
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Ah yea that was why!
Should've calculated 1/6*2 + 1/6 * 3 etc.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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