Calculating the Final Image Location in a Compound Lens System

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The problem involves a compound lens system consisting of two converging lenses with specified positions and focal lengths. An object is placed at a given location, and the goal is to determine the location of the final image produced by the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the lens formula and magnification equations to find the image location. There are attempts to apply the lens formula for both lenses sequentially, with some participants questioning the signs used for object distances. Others explore the concept of a resultant focal point for the system.

Discussion Status

Multiple attempts have been made to calculate the image location, with varying results. Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and seek clarification on the correct application of the lens formula. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final image location, but productive discussions about the calculations and assumptions are ongoing.

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Participants mention constraints such as a deadline for submission and the limited number of attempts remaining to solve the problem. There are indications of confusion regarding the application of the lens formula and the interpretation of distances in the context of the lens system.

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Homework Statement



A compound lens system consists of two converging lenses, one at x= -20cm with focal length f1 = +10cm, and the other at x= +20cm with focal length f2 = +8cm . An object 1 centimeter tall is placed at x = -50cm.

What is the location of the final image produced by the compound lens system? Give the x coordinate of the image.


Homework Equations



1/f = 1/s' + 1/s

m = y'/y = -(s'/s)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure. I believe I need to do the first equation I posted twice. Using the s' from the first lense as the s (object) for the second lens.

for lens 1 i get:

1/f = 1/s' + 1's

1/10 = 1/s' + 1/-30 (used negative since it is on oppostie side of mirror?)

s' = 7.5 cm (is that telling me it is 7.5 from the lens correct? so in between the lens and the f.)

for lens 2 i get:

1/f = 1/s' + 1/s

1/8 = 1/s' + 1/-7.5 (used negative since it is on oppostie side of mirror?)

s' = 3.87 cm (is that telling me it is 3.87 from the lens correct? so in between the lens and the f.)


if these are corect it is telling me the final image is located at x = + 23.87 but that is wrong.

so where did i go wrong in my calculations?
 

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well, I have gotten several wrong answers and have only two chances left.


edit - still working on it

i found something about solving for a resultant focal point.

F = 1 / f1 + 1 / f2 - d / f1f2
F = (1/10 + 1/8) - (40/10*8)
F = -.275

if i then take this into my original equation
1/f = 1/s' + 1/s
1/-.275 = 1/s' + 1/30
s' = -3.67

if this is correct then s' is located at what?
 
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tried it again

lens 1:

1/f = 1/s' + 1/s
1/10 = 1/s' + 1/30
s' = 7.5 = @ x = -12.5


lens 2:
1/f = 1/s' + 1/s
1/8 = 1/s' + 1/32.5
s' = 10.6 = final image is at x = + 30.6 ?
 
This is due at 11pm tonight, if anyone can please help me. I don't know where I am going wrong here.

Thanks.
 

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