Calculating the final temperature of a mixture of Ice and Water

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The discussion revolves around calculating the final temperature of a mixture of ice and water, specifically involving 176 grams of ice at -10 degrees Celsius and 206 grams of water at 73.3 degrees Celsius. Participants are exploring the energy exchanges involved in the phase change and temperature adjustments of the substances.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the energy calculations required to determine the final temperature, including the specific heats of ice and water, the heat of fusion, and the energy needed to raise the temperature of the ice to its melting point. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of ∆temperature and the accuracy of specific heat values used in calculations.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the calculations, with some participants identifying potential errors in energy values and suggesting corrections. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the methodology and ensure accurate results, although no consensus on the final temperature has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of significant figures in their calculations, which may affect the final answer. There is also mention of the possibility of some ice remaining unmelted or the mixture being slightly warmer than 0 degrees Celsius, indicating uncertainties in the final outcome.

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Homework Statement


How do I calculate the following. The final temperature of a mixture of of ice and water. Where 176grams of ice at -10celsius mixes with 206 grams of water at 73.3celsius. I have tried this equation in multiple fashions and cannot seems to come to a consistent answer! Any help would be appreciated!


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Why does the below not work?
water specific heat=4.184
ice specific heat= 2.11
heat of fusion=334

((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(∆temperature))+((mass ice)*(heat of fusion))+((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(x-0))=((specific Heat water)X(Mass water)x(∆temperature))
 
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Jham808 said:

Homework Statement


How do I calculate the following. The final temperature of a mixture of of ice and water. Where 176grams of ice at -10celsius mixes with 206 grams of water at 73.3celsius. I have tried this equation in multiple fashions and cannot seems to come to a consistent answer! Any help would be appreciated!


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Why does the below not work?
water specific heat=4.184
ice specific heat= 2.11
heat of fusion=334

((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(∆temperature))+((mass ice)*(heat of fusion))+((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(x-0))=((specific Heat water)X(Mass water)x(∆temperature))

What do you mean on ∆temperature?

After the ice reached the melting temperature and melted, it became water at 0 degree, and its specific heat is the same as that of water.

ehild
 
Hello ehlid,

I have tried this in stages but continue to do something incorrectly.

The Amount of Energy in Water
((specific Heat water)X(Mass water)x(∆temperature))
4.18 X 73.3C X 206gram=63,117Joules

The Amount of Energy to get ice to melting point
((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(∆temperature))
2.11 * 10c * 176grams=3,713Joules

Energy for Melting
((mass ice)*(heat of fusion))
334*176=58,784

Total Energy of ice melt and bringing to melting point
((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(∆temperature))+((mass ice)*(heat of fusion))
62,497

62,497<63,117 complete melting of ice occurs

the remaining energy is 602 joules
the total remaining water mass is 176+206=326grams
602joules=326grams * 4.18 * (x-0)
602= 1,362 * (x-0)
0.44=(x-0)

is this correct?
 
^mostly
remaining energy=
-62,497+63,117=620 not 602
typo?
 
yes, 620 is correct. apologies. Is this the correct answer?
 
Jham808 said:
I have tried this in stages but continue to do something incorrectly.

The Amount of Energy in Water
((specific Heat water)X(Mass water)x(∆temperature))
4.18 X 73.3C X 206gram=63,117Joules

Why did you ignore the last digit of the specific heat? 4.184 X 73.3C X 206gram=63,522Joules

Jham808 said:
The Amount of Energy to get ice to melting point
((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(∆temperature))
2.11 * 10c * 176grams=3,713Joules

Energy for Melting
((mass ice)*(heat of fusion))
334*176=58,784

Total Energy of ice melt and bringing to melting point
((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(∆temperature))+((mass ice)*(heat of fusion))
62,497

62,497<63,117 complete melting of ice occurs

the remaining energy is 602 joules

It is 1029 J

Jham808 said:
the total remaining water mass is 176+206=326grams
602joules=326grams * 4.18 * (x-0)
602= 1,362 * (x-0)
0.44=(x-0)

is this correct?

No. Recalculate with the correct remaining energy. But the method is correct.

ehild
 
I wonder if the desired answer should be 0°C.
Can you quote the question exactly?
It seems we are to use significant 3 digits for each value.
Then we should write -10.0°C.
When we subtract our 3 digits will be reduced to 1.
This leads to an answer of about 0.4°C.
As this value is uncertain the mixture might contain some unmelted ice or be slightly warmer than 0°C. Not that it would make much difference.
 

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