Calculating the Hill sphere of the International Space Station

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The problem involves calculating the Hill sphere of the International Space Station (ISS), which has a mass of 400,000 kg and orbits at a height of 408 km above the Earth's surface. The diameter of the ISS is given as 109 m.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply a formula for the Hill sphere but expresses confusion about the variables involved, particularly regarding the meaning of the height and diameter provided. Some participants question the interpretation of the variables and suggest clarifying the physical meanings of the measurements.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively clarifying the definitions of the variables and discussing the implications of the measurements. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between the ISS's height and its ability to have another object orbiting within its Hill sphere.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the mass of the object that the ISS orbits, which is not provided in the problem statement. Additionally, the original poster's assumptions about the semi-major axis and the nature of the Hill sphere are under discussion.

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Homework Statement

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The International Space Station (ISS) has a mass of 400,000 kg and orbits 408 km
above the Earth’s surface. The ISS is 109 m across.

Homework Equations

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R=a(semimajoraxis) cubedroot(m2/3M1)

The Attempt at a Solution

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ive tried multiple ways with multiple equations, I just can't figure out what the variable are sipposed to be I am assuming that M1 is 400,000Kg, and M2 isn't given my main problem is what do 408Km and 109M represent, is the 109 M the Hill sphere, so would the euation work out to be 109=204 cubedroot (m/3*400,000kg)? or is this just a conceptual question and I am way overthinking this?

PS. if your wondering where the 204 came from i assumed the 408 distance from Earth to the ISS was the major axis so semimajor was 204.
 
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fema98 said:
and M2 isn't given my main problem
What does the ISS orbit? You can look up the mass of this object.
fema98 said:
is the 109 M the Hill sphere
No, it is the physical diameter of the space station.

408 km is the height of the space station above the surface of Earth. That is written in the problem statement, I don't see what could be unclear here.
fema98 said:
PS. if your wondering where the 204 came from i assumed the 408 distance from Earth to the ISS was the major axis so semimajor was 204.
(a) work with units, then you would have spotted one error here already
(b) 408 km is the height of the ISS above the surface of Earth (that is literally given in the problem statement), it is not the distance to the center of Earth.

Did you draw a sketch?
 
Firstly thanks for the clarification. And no i didn't draw it, never been able to visualize math/physics problems. Also i would presume that aslong as i get a positive number than that would indicate that theoretically there could be another station that could orbit the ISS aslong as it was within that Hill sphere?
 
fema98 said:
And no i didn't draw it, never been able to visualize math/physics problems.
That makes it difficult to solve problems. Drawing a sketch will help to visualize it.
fema98 said:
Also i would presume that aslong as i get a positive number than that would indicate that theoretically there could be another station that could orbit the ISS aslong as it was within that Hill sphere?
Not if the orbit would have to physically go through the station.
 

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