Calculating the mechanical index of applied ultrasound

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the mechanical index (MI) of applied ultrasound, focusing on the equation used, the impact of attenuation, and the normalization factor involved in the formula. Participants explore the theoretical and practical aspects of the calculation, including dimensional analysis and the relationship between pressure and intensity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation for MI as the peak rarefactional pressure divided by the square root of the frequency, noting the need for an attenuation factor that varies with depth and frequency.
  • Another participant suggests a different approach found in a referenced paper, indicating that it does not consider attenuation due to tissue or depth.
  • A participant clarifies that a normalization factor is included in the formula, affecting the units and calculations of MI.
  • Discussion includes the relationship between intensity and acoustic pressure, with references to logarithmic relationships for calculating attenuation.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in their calculations after receiving clarification from another participant.

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Participants express differing views on the inclusion of the normalization factor and its implications for the calculations. There is no consensus on the best approach to calculating MI, as some participants emphasize the importance of attenuation while others reference different methodologies.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the normalization factor and its role in the calculations, as well as the dependence on specific definitions and assumptions related to intensity and pressure.

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On the surface, the equation is simply the peak rarefractional pressure divided by the root of the applied frequency:

##MI = \frac{P_{ra}}{\sqrt{f}}##

But the pressure is reduced/derated by an attenuation factor/coefficient that is dependent on depth and frequency e.g. ##0.3 \ dB / (cm \cdot MHz)##

An example calculation is given in the paper "Tutorial paper: thermal and mechanical indices". Where it takes a 4 MHz pulse, at 6cm, 2 Mpa, ##0.3 \ dB / (cm \cdot MHz)## and says the MI would be (2*0.44)/SQRT(4) = 0.44. I can't get the 0.44 because the dimensional analysis with units doesn't seem right.

##MI = \frac{MPa}{\sqrt{MHz}}\cdot \frac{dB}{cm\cdot MHz}##

I can easily calculate the attenuation, which is simply the attenuation coefficient multiplied by distance and frequency. Which for his example is 7.2 dB, I can also calculate intensity from this from I = I * 10^(-dB/10), but still don't get the 0.44.

Am I overcomplicating things?
 
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jim mcnamara said:
This is probably some help - note their approach seems a little different from yours-
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5336845/
Thanks, I did see that paper but it seems they do not factor in the attenuation due to tissue / depth at all. I should have probably put this in the physics sections above as I think I'm having a calculation problem, rather than a definition problem. But I really appreciate the reply, thanks.
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There is a normalization factor in the formula. If the factor is written in the denominator the units are ##\frac{MPa}{MHz^{1/2}}##. The formula I use is ##MI=\frac{p_{r.03}}{C_{MI}\sqrt{f}}## where ##C_{MI}## is this normalization constant. This is concerning the units.
For the value, the attenuation refers to the intensity. The intensity is proportional to the square of the acoustic pressure. So you have ##10 log(I_1/I_2)= 7.2 dB ## and ## 20 log(p_1/p_2)= 7.2 dB## so the pressure at 6 cm is derated to ##\frac{2 Mpa}{10^{0.36}} ## which is about 0.87 MPa. Divide this by ##\sqrt{4}## and you get about 0.44.

Edit.
In some papers they don't put the normaliation factor in the formula but it is assumed to be there.
It does not change the values.
 
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nasu said:
There is a normalization factor in the formula. If the factor is written in the denominator the units are ##\frac{MPa}{MHz^{1/2}}##. The formula I use is ##MI=\frac{p_{r.03}}{C_{MI}\sqrt{f}}## where ##C_{MI}## is this normalization constant. This is concerning the units.
For the value, the attenuation refers to the intensity. The intensity is proportional to the square of the acoustic pressure. So you have ##10 log(I_1/I_2)= 7.2 dB ## and ## 20 log(p_1/p_2)= 7.2 dB## so the pressure at 6 cm is derated to ##\frac{2 Mpa}{10^{0.36}} ## which is about 0.87 MPa. Divide this by ##\sqrt{4}## and you get about 0.44.

Edit.
In some papers they don't put the normaliation factor in the formula but it is assumed to be there.
It does not change the values.

Thank you very much nasu, I had completely messed up my calculation. Extremely helpful!
 
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