Calculating Time for Electrolysis of Water

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the time required to produce 10 moles of hydrogen from water through electrolysis using a current of 1 Amp. Participants explore the application of Faraday's law in this context, including the necessary equations and constants involved in the calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their calculation method using the equation derived from Faraday's law, stating that the time calculated is approximately 1929.7 seconds.
  • Another participant suggests that the initial calculations are off by orders of magnitude and indicates that the thread belongs in the homework section.
  • The original poster revises their calculation, arriving at a figure of about 536 hours, expressing concern over the magnitude of this result.
  • Participants discuss the relevance of the amount of water being electrolyzed and the surface area of the electrodes, with one participant asserting that the time should depend on the amount of water decomposed rather than the total volume present.
  • Another participant clarifies that while the electrode size does not affect the time if the current is constant, larger electrodes would produce more gas due to a higher current in comparative experiments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the application of Faraday's law but express differing views on the factors affecting the electrolysis process, such as the amount of water and electrode size. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these factors on the time calculation.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions regarding the constants used in calculations and the dependence on specific experimental conditions, which remain unresolved.

PeetPb
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greetings

I'd like you to check my calculations. The task is to calculate the time needed to produce 10 moles of hydrogen from water by electrolysis with a current of 1Amp.
I first wrote the equation of the reaction that occurs on the cathode
2H2O+2e- = H2 +2OH-
Then I derived the equation for time from Faraday's law
t=(F*n*z)/I
Since there are two electrons exchanging , z=2, I evaluated the equation and get
t= 1929.7 seconds which is .536 hours.

Is this correct ?

thanx
 
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Approach is OK, but somehow you are off by orders of magnitude.

Please note this should land in the homework section.
 
oh, right thanks , I somehow used the wrong constant ... so again when I plug the numbers along with the units I get
t=(96485.3*2*10 C mol)/(1 mol A) the moles cancel and I'm left with C/A which should be seconds. The actual number is about 536 hours ... is this right ? it seems to be a little lot to me ... I got the Faraday's constant from http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=F&a=*C.F-_*Unit.dflt-&a=UnitClash_*F.*FaradayConstantValue--"

shall I rewrite the thread or would you move it there ?

thanx
 
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Hundreds of hours sounds much better. And the thread is already in HW subforum.
 
I was just wondering ... shouldn't the time depend on the amount of water that we are electrolysing or on the surface area of the electrodes ?
 
PeetPb said:
I was just wondering ... shouldn't the time depend on the amount of water that we are electrolysing

Doesn't matter how much water is present - what does matter is how much water decomposed.

or on the surface area of the electrodes ?

As long as the current is constant, electrode size doesn't matter. If you were to compare two experiments, where we supply the same potential, but electrodes are different, then yes - larger electrode will produce more gas. But it will produce more gas because the current will be higher.
 
thank you very much ... I got it finally :)
 

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