Calculating Time in Air for a Thrown Ball

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The problem involves a student throwing a ball straight up with an initial speed of 15 m/s from a height of 2.0 m above the ground. The objective is to determine how long the ball remains in the air before it returns to the ground, considering the effects of gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the role of gravity in the motion of the ball and its relation to the initial speed. There are attempts to identify the appropriate kinematic equations to describe the ball's position over time. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of variables, particularly the displacement and the signs of the initial velocity and acceleration.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, suggesting relevant equations and discussing the implications of initial conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinematic equations, and there is an exploration of how to incorporate the initial height into the calculations. Multiple interpretations of the variables and their signs are being considered.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the correct setup of the kinematic equation, including the need to account for the initial height and the direction of forces acting on the ball. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of the signs for initial velocity and acceleration due to gravity.

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Homework Statement



A student standing on the ground throws a ball straight up. The ball leaves the studen'ts hand with a speed of 15 m/s when the hand is 2.0m above the ground. How long is the ball in the air before it hits the ground?


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I'm not sure



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Ok so I'm guessing I have to imply gravity will have an effect on the ball, I'm just not sure how it comes in the equation with the speed. and since there are no forces working on the x-axis there should be no mention of range. I also checked on the hyper phisics site under free fall but the only relevant topic gives me this equation: Vy=Voy-gt, but that doesn't quite work for me since I can't clear it for t which is the variable I'm looking for. I need help.
 
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You need an equation which will describe the position of the ball (i.e. the 'y coordinate') with respect to time.
 
You need to use the kinematic equations for motion with constant acceleration, which can be found http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/Class/1DKin/U1L6a.html You know vi, a and d and want to find t, so pick a suitable equation.

edit: Damn, radou typed faster than me!
 
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I guess I'd use this one:

d=Vi*t+1/2gt^2

It's the one that would work in my case since i got speed and g, but what do you say is d? is it the 2m the ball is apart from the x axis?
 
ecthelion4 said:
I guess I'd use this one:

d=Vi*t+1/2gt^2

It's the one that would work in my case since i got speed and g, but what do you say is d? is it the 2m the ball is apart from the x axis?

You missed a sign in your equation. Think about which one it could be. Further on, you forgot to add another term in your equation. (Hint: initial ________.)
 
Oh I think I get it now

The equation is d=vi*t+1/2*a*t² , so if I substitute the values I know I get this:

2m=15m/s*t+1/2*9.8m/s²*t²

so now i just clear in terms of t right?
 
ecthelion4 said:
Oh I think I get it now

The equation is d=vi*t+1/2*a*t² , so if I substitute the values I know I get this:

2m=15m/s*t+1/2*9.8m/s²*t²

so now i just clear in terms of t right?

Another hint: in what direction is the initial velocity pointing, and in what direction does gravity act? What does that tell you about the signs of these quantities? Further on, add the initial height to your equation.
 

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