Calculating Torque with Vectors at an Angle

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To calculate torque from point B with a vector at an angle, it's essential to identify the lever arm and the line of action for the force. The lever arm can be determined by the distance from point B to where the force vector G intersects the slope, referred to as point D. The torque (τ) is calculated as the product of the force and the perpendicular distance from the line of action to the pivot point. By extending the force vector to point D, the lever arm can be expressed as BD, allowing for the calculation of torque using the perpendicular component of the force. Understanding these relationships is crucial for accurately determining torque in inclined scenarios.
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So I was wondering how do we account for vectors that are at a certain angle. The problem that I'm having with the picture is: if I was calculating torque from point B, how would I account for the vector G.
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I've tried taking the component that's vertical to the slope, but in that case what is the lever arm? Is it where the vector G crosses the slope(point D)?
 
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lukatwo said:

Homework Statement


So I was wondering how do we account for vectors that are at a certain angle. The problem that I'm having with the picture is: if I was calculating torque from point B, how would I account for the vector G.
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The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried taking the component that's vertical to the slope, but in that case what is the lever arm? Is it where the vector G crosses the slope(point D)?
Try taking the component that's perpendicular to the ramp (incline).

Do you know about the line of action for a force -- in this case force G ?
 
I've tried taking the perpendicular component, but not sure what the lever arm is. I'm not sure how to determine the line of action.
 
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I've tried taking the perpendicular component, but not sure what the lever arm is. I'm not sure how to determine the line of action.

By extending the force T, you can see that it will contact point D. So it is like you're applying the force T directly on point D and the lever arm will be BD. Then take the perpendicular component of force T relative to the slope.

You can always check.
If we assume that BT is perpendicular to force T (note: BT is the dist. bet. B and T)
From the figure, the τ = T*(BT) . But, BT = BDsin(90-α). Therefore τ = T*(BDsin(90-α)) [1].
Returning to your problem, τ = Txr where r is the lever arm. The perpendicular component of T is Tsin(90-α). Therefore τ = Tsin(90-α)*r = T*(BDsin(90-α)) from [1]. Therefore r = BD.
 
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