Calculating Torque with Vectors at an Angle

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This discussion focuses on calculating torque using vectors at an angle, specifically addressing the challenge of determining the lever arm when calculating torque from point B with respect to vector G. The solution involves identifying the perpendicular component of the force T relative to the slope and recognizing that the lever arm is BD, where BD is the distance between points B and D. The torque equation is established as τ = T*(BDsin(90-α)), confirming the relationship between torque, force, and lever arm in this context.

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So I was wondering how do we account for vectors that are at a certain angle. The problem that I'm having with the picture is: if I was calculating torque from point B, how would I account for the vector G.
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I've tried taking the component that's vertical to the slope, but in that case what is the lever arm? Is it where the vector G crosses the slope(point D)?
 
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lukatwo said:

Homework Statement


So I was wondering how do we account for vectors that are at a certain angle. The problem that I'm having with the picture is: if I was calculating torque from point B, how would I account for the vector G.
mmUnGvT.png


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The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried taking the component that's vertical to the slope, but in that case what is the lever arm? Is it where the vector G crosses the slope(point D)?
Try taking the component that's perpendicular to the ramp (incline).

Do you know about the line of action for a force -- in this case force G ?
 
I've tried taking the perpendicular component, but not sure what the lever arm is. I'm not sure how to determine the line of action.
 
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I've tried taking the perpendicular component, but not sure what the lever arm is. I'm not sure how to determine the line of action.

By extending the force T, you can see that it will contact point D. So it is like you're applying the force T directly on point D and the lever arm will be BD. Then take the perpendicular component of force T relative to the slope.

You can always check.
If we assume that BT is perpendicular to force T (note: BT is the dist. bet. B and T)
From the figure, the τ = T*(BT) . But, BT = BDsin(90-α). Therefore τ = T*(BDsin(90-α)) [1].
Returning to your problem, τ = Txr where r is the lever arm. The perpendicular component of T is Tsin(90-α). Therefore τ = Tsin(90-α)*r = T*(BDsin(90-α)) from [1]. Therefore r = BD.
 
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