Calculating Total Force on Earth from Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn

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The problem involves calculating the total gravitational force exerted on Earth by the planets Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn, assuming they are aligned in a straight line with the Sun. The masses of the planets and their distances from the Sun are provided, along with the mass of Earth.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to determine the distances from each planet to Earth and questions how to calculate these distances given their respective distances from the Sun.
  • Some participants suggest using subtraction of distances to find the separation between the planets and Earth.
  • There is a discussion about the sign of the force from Venus, with the original poster questioning whether it should be considered negative due to its direction.

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The discussion has progressed with participants providing guidance on calculating distances and addressing the sign of the gravitational force. The original poster has indicated a resolution to their question regarding the sign of the force from Venus, suggesting that some productive direction has been achieved.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement and the assumptions regarding the alignment of the planets. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in determining the correct distances and forces without providing a complete solution.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the total force on the Earth due to Venus, Jupiter and Saturn, assuming all four planets are in a line (see figure).
An amateur astronomer measures the masses to be MV = 0.888 ME, MJ = 324 ME, MS = 98.0 ME, and their distances from the Sun are 1.080×10^8 km, 1.500×10^8 km, 7.780×10^8 km and 1.430×10^9 km respectively.
The mass of the Earth ME is 5.980×10^24 kg and the distance from the Earth to the sun is 1.500×10^8 km. The mass of the sun is 1.99×10^30 kg.


Homework Equations


F = Gm1 m2/r^2


The Attempt at a Solution


My problem is how to calculate the distance from each planet to earth. Like, if both Earth and Jupiter are 1.500x10^8 km from the sun, how far apart are they?
 
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so you've got five points on a line

Sun Venus Earth Jupiter Saturn

you know the distance from the Sun to each of these points

From that you can know the distance between two of the points by subtracting the shorter distance from the longer one. For instance: the distance between Jupiter and Saturn would be found to be the distance from the Sun to Saturn minus the distance from Jupiter to Saturn.

You might be able to see it more clearly if you draw out a picture of the situation. Don't worry about making it to scale.
 
Okay, so:

Distance from Earth to corresponding planet:

Venus = 1.500×108 km - 1.080×108 km = 42,000,000 km = 4.2E10 m

Jupiter = 7.780×108 km - 1.500×108 km = 628,000,000 km = 6.28E11 m

Saturn = 1.430×109 km - 1.500×108 km = 1,280,000,000 km = 1.28E12 m

F = GME[(.888ME/(4.2E102) + (324ME/(6.28E112) + (98ME/(1.28E122)]

F = GME[(3010.3 + 4912.8 + 357.7)

F = GME(8280.8) = 3.3E18 N

...but I still get the answer wrong. Any help? Would the force from Venus be negative because it's in a different direction than Jupiter and Saturn?
 
haha answered my own question there - I set the (3010.3) to be negative and that gave me the right answer. Thanks for the help!
 
btw for anyone wondering the correct answer is 9.03×10^17 N
 

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