Calculating total work using kinetic-work theorem

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The problem involves two children on a frictionless surface, where one child pushes the other, resulting in movement. The discussion centers around calculating the total work done using the kinetic-work theorem and understanding the relationship between their masses and speeds.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the calculation of kinetic energy for both children and question the initial assumptions about their masses and speeds. There is a discussion about using conservation of momentum to find the boy's speed.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the use of conservation of momentum and clarifying the kinetic energy calculations. There is acknowledgment of initial misunderstandings regarding the masses of the children.

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Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the masses of the children and their respective speeds, which are critical to solving the problem accurately.

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1. A boy of mass m and a girl of mass 2m are initially at rest at the center of a frozen pond. They push each other so that she slides to the left at speed v across the frictionless ice surface and he slides to the right as shown above. What is the total work done by the children.



2. KE=1/2(mv^2)



3. I was thinking of adding the kinetic energies together. For the girl, I was thinking mv^2 and 1/2 mv^2 for the boy. This would give me 3/2(mv^2), but the correct answer should be 3mv^2. I need help understanding this concept, and how you would arrive to this conclusion. Thanks!
 
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You are given that the speed of the girl is v, so how her KE be mv^2?

But first things first. How can you figure out the speed of the boy?
 
By conservation of momentum! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
 
Doc Al said:
You are given that the speed of the girl is v, so how her KE be mv^2?
But you were correct about that! (Her mass is 2m, not m. :redface:)

tjw137 said:
By conservation of momentum!
Exactly!
 
I had written her mass in terms of the boys mass. I was not clear on that in my initial post. Sorry about that. I should have used subscripts.
 

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