Calculating Work Done on an Object with Force in One Direction

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done on an object by a force represented as a vector, specifically in the context of motion along the x-axis. The force is defined with components in both the i and j directions, while the displacement is solely in the i direction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the concept of the dot product between the force vector and the displacement vector, questioning how to handle the absence of a j component in the displacement. There is also discussion about interpreting the force vector's components as variables rather than subscripts, suggesting a deeper understanding of the problem setup.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different perspectives on how to approach the calculation of work done. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of integration to account for the variable nature of the force, and there is recognition of the need to clarify assumptions about the force's constancy.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted assumption that the force may be variable, as indicated by its representation in N/m, which suggests a spring-like behavior. This introduces complexity into the calculation of work done, as participants consider the implications of integrating the force over the displacement.

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[SOLVED] Friction help please

Homework Statement


A force F = axÎ+byj , where a = 1.5 N/m and b = 1.7 N/m, acts on an object as the object moves in the Î direction along the x- axis from the origin to c = 4.1 m. Find the work done on the object by the force. Answer in units of J.

Then j is supposed to have a hat on it too and the Force (F) is a vector with the arrow over it.


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I am pretty sure that I am supposed to take the dot product of the force and the displacement but how do you take the dot product of the force and the displacement when the displacement is only in the i direction? There is no j portion of it.

I would appreciate a little help getting started with this. Thank you
 
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Sure there is! How large is the j component of a vector that points in the i direction? To put it another way: you know your displacement vector is D = 4.1i, right? So if you set D = 4.1i = xi + yj ... what must be the values of x and y?
 
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belliott4488 said:
Sure there is! How large is the j component of a vector that points in the i direction? To put it another way: you know your displacement vector is D = 4.1i, right? So if you set D = 4.1i = xi + yj ... what must be the values of x and y?

oops...i mean 4.1 would be x and 0 would be y...
 
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is that right?
 
I try to multiply these two together: 1.5xi+1.7yj and 4.1xi+0.0yj and I get 6.15 but this is not right. What am i doing wrong?
 
it shall save a lot of trouble if you try integration dear..

>>Work Done = integral of vector F .dx ; integrate x from 0 to 4.1.

this shall simplify the problem much...
 
physixguru said:
it shall save a lot of trouble if you try integration dear..

>>Work Done = integral of vector F .dx ; integrate x from 0 to 4.1.

this shall simplify the problem much...
I think I see what's going on. jj8890 is assuming that the force is constant, as I was at first. Since the force is given in units of N/m, then I see that the x and y appearing in the force definition are not subscripts, but are variables of displacement. We must have a spring here.

So, jj8890 - try what physixguru suggested - do your dot product, but do it for each point along the motion in the x-direction, i.e. integrate. (If you know how to use Hook's Law for springs, you could jump right to the answer, but doing the integral essentially derives the expression for the potential energy of a spring, which goes with Hook's Law.)
 

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