Calculation of Speed for Message Packet on Small Planet

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the speed of a message packet traveling through a tube bored through the center of a small planet. The planet's density and radius are provided, and the relationship between the packet's motion and the period of a satellite orbiting at the planet's surface is highlighted.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the speed of the packet using equations related to oscillatory motion, but seeks confirmation on their calculations and results.
  • Some participants question the accuracy of the calculations and suggest re-evaluating specific values used in the equations.
  • There is a focus on ensuring that the final answer is expressed as a speed, rather than a velocity, indicating a concern for clarity in the results.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on calculations and suggesting corrections. There is no explicit consensus on the final speed value, but there is a collaborative effort to clarify and verify the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential typographical errors in the calculations and emphasize the importance of correctly interpreting the results as speed rather than velocity. The original poster's calculations are based on specific assumptions about the motion of the packet within the tube.

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Homework Statement


The residents of a small planet have bored a hole straight through its center as part of a communications system. The hole has been filled with a tube and the air has been pumped out of the tube to virtually eliminate friction. Messages are passed back and forth by dropping packets through the tube. The planet has a density of 3790kg/m3, and it has a radius of R=5.25×106m. Remember, as we saw in class, this 'oscillator' will have a period equal to the period of a satellite in orbit at the surface of the planet

a) What is the speed of the message packet as it passes a point a distance of 0.380R from the center of the planet?

Homework Equations


x = A cos wt
v = -A sin wt * 2pi/t

The Attempt at a Solution


I have T = 6106 s

Utilizing x = A cos wt to find t at .380R (A = R)

.380R = R Cos(2pi*t/T)
R's cancel

Cos-1(.380) = 1.181
1.818 * 6106 / 2pi

t = 1147.695 (can someone confirm this, I've done it a few time and get the same answer

Then I plug t in the derived velocity equation

v = -R sin(2pit/T) * 2pi/T

and the answer I get is -1.08x10^5m/s

Any thoughts?, Thanks
 
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Redo your calculation of v. I get a different value using your numbers. Everything else looks fine. Also, make sure you give your final answer as the speed.
 
dantechiesa said:
1.818 * 6106 / 2pi
Typo. It was 1.181.
dantechiesa said:
v = -R sin(2pit/T) * 2pi/T
That looks ok, but I calculate from that something of the order of 1000 to 10000.
 
haruspex said:
Typo. It was 1.181.

That looks ok, but I calculate from that something of the order of 1000 to 10000.
Thank you!
 
RedDelicious said:
Redo your calculation of v. I get a different value using your numbers. Everything else looks fine. Also, make sure you give your final answer as the speed.
Thats what it was, Thanks!
 

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