How can I express f*dA in terms of u and v for the given function?

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The discussion focuses on expressing the function f(x,y,z) = x²yz in terms of parameters u and v, where x = u + v, y = u - v, and z = u² + v². The solution involves using the fundamental vector product to find the differential area element dA, which is derived from the cross product of the partial derivatives of the vector function r(u,v) = (u+v)i + (u-v)j + (u²+v²)k. The final expression for f(u,v)dA is 2(u+v)²(u-v)(u²+v²)√(2u² + 2v² + 1)dudv.

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Homework Statement


Let f(x,y,z)=x^2yz. Express f*dA in terms of u and v.


The Attempt at a Solution


We're given that
x= u+v
y= u-v
z= u^2+v^2.

The main problem I'm having is that I know I need to take partial derivatives in respect to u and v but I'm not sure how. I did an easier problem that required me to find the area element and I had to take the partial of x in respect to u, then the partial of y in respect to u. In that problem the x, y, z were separated but in this case, x y and z are all together so I'm not sure how to separate them and take the partials to find are element. Thanks :smile:
 
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so do i just substitute all of those equations into x^2yz and take the derivatives once in respect to u and then once in respect to v?
 
dA is given by the "fundamental vector product": First write the surface as a vector function of the two parameters:
\vec{r}= x\vec{i}+ y\vec{j}+ z\vec{k}= (u+v)\vec{i}+ (u-v)\vec{j}+ (u^2+ v^2)\vec{k}
Now take the derivatives with respect to each parameter:
\vec{r}_u= \vec{i}+ \vec{j}+ 2u\vec{k}
and
\vec{r}_v= \vec{i}- \vec{j}+ 2v\vec{k}

The "fundamental vector product" is the cross product of those two vectors. Since they both are tangent to the circus (in the direction of the "coordinate axes for coordinates u and v) their cross product is perpendicular to the surface and its length is the "differential of surface area"
If I have done the calculation correctly (something I never guarentee!) then
dS= 2\sqrt{2u^2+ 2v^2+ 1}dudv
and f(u,v)dA is
2(u+v)^2(u-v)(u^2+ v^2)\sqrt{2u^2+ 2v^2+ 1}dudv
 
hm...interesting, I'll definitely be doing more problems for practice. Thanks
 
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