Cambridge Part III vs Perimeter Institute master program

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of two master's programs—Cambridge Part III and the Perimeter Institute (PI) master's program—in the context of pursuing a PhD at a top university in the United States. Participants explore the advantages and disadvantages of each program as a pathway to achieving this goal.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the necessity of obtaining a master's degree before applying for a PhD in the U.S., suggesting that many candidates apply directly with a bachelor's degree.
  • One participant notes that top U.S. programs may not offer a terminal master's degree and raises concerns about the potential need to retake coursework and pass qualifying exams if a separate master's is pursued.
  • Another participant recommends the Cambridge Tripos III as a potentially advantageous option for gaining admission to a PhD program, particularly in Europe.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of attending the PI program, including the need to start from scratch when applying for PhD positions in the U.S. and the possibility of having to decline existing doctoral offers.
  • There is a suggestion that excelling in the Tripos III could enhance chances of securing a PhD position at Cambridge or other European institutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of pursuing a master's degree before applying for a PhD, with some advocating for direct applications to PhD programs while others highlight potential benefits of the master's programs discussed. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best pathway to a PhD in the U.S.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about the structure and requirements of PhD programs in the U.S., including the role of master's degrees, which may vary by institution. There is also uncertainty about the specific admission processes and outcomes related to the master's programs in question.

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Hello!
Suppose that your objective is to do a PhD in an american university, one of the top to be exactly. Imagine you have to opportunity to chose between Cambridge Part III and Perimeter Institute master program. Which master would be the best way to achieve the stated goal? What would be the advantages and disadvantages of each master?
 
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PhD in U.S? Neither Cambridge Part III or PSI are in the U.S. I'm confused, is this hypothetical, do you actually need advice or are you just curious?
 
Of course! I am just asking which of the two master's I mentioned would be preferable if your goal after the master's degree is to do a PhD in the US.
 
You'd be better off just applying to a PhD program in the US; most people don't earn a masters before applying, they just apply to the PhD with the bachelors and earn a masters en route. In fact, many top programs don't even offer a terminal masters degree - did you make sure you could get one at Cambridge or the PI? Even if you do a masters somewhere else, most grad schools will make you retake some of the coursework and pass their own qualifying exam before doing the PhD, so doing a separate masters can set you back a few years overall.
 
My honest advice would be to do the Tripos III and try to stay at Cam or just apply to a PhD in the US.

If you go to PSI, while it will surely be an exciting time, you will need to apply for a PhD position next year in the US and start from zero. And to get into PSI you might need to resign now to any doctoral offer you have. So, if you want a phd in the US, just apply directly to the US, there is no need (or advantage) in using a master program as an intermediate step.

On the other side, if you do well in the examinations of tripos III your chances of getting a phd position at Cam are good, and almost certain in a good place in Europe.
 

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