Can a Chemistry BS Graduate Successfully Transition to a Physics PhD?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential for a Chemistry BS graduate to transition into a Physics PhD program. Participants explore the feasibility of studying physics within a chemistry PhD program, the challenges of lateral transfer between disciplines, and the adequacy of the participant's physics background for graduate-level work in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) expresses a desire to study quantum mechanics at a deeper level within a chemistry PhD program and questions if they can do so under a physicist's guidance.
  • Some participants suggest that pursuing a master's in chemistry with a focus on physics coursework could facilitate a later transition to a physics graduate program.
  • Others note that the OP's acceptance into a PhD program may allow for flexibility in course selection, particularly in programs that integrate chemistry and physics, such as Harvard's chemical physics program.
  • The OP indicates a preference to not abandon their accepted PhD program for a master's, emphasizing the importance of exploring their interests in physics while enrolled in their current program.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the OP has options to study physics within a chemistry program, but there is no consensus on the best path forward or the likelihood of successfully transitioning to a physics PhD program.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying opinions on the adequacy of the OP's physics background and the specific requirements of different graduate programs, which may influence the feasibility of a transition.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering interdisciplinary studies between chemistry and physics, particularly those with a background in one field looking to transition to the other.

Elkoshi
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Hello all,

I am rather new to these forums, and I have a question about lateral transfer between chemistry and physics. First, my background pertaining to physics:

MATH:
3 semesters calculus
1 semester each: ordinary differential equations, linear algebra, abstract algebra, probability and statistics, and a course in mathematical proofs and logic

PHYSICS:
General physics 1 and 2. These were at a weak school, so I don't feel I know them very well.
1 semester mathematical physics (Mary Boas's book)
1 semester E & M (Griffith's book)

CHEMISTRY:
Physical chemistry 1 and 2. First semester was thermodynamics, second was (mostly) an introduction to quantum mechanics.
Quantum Chemistry
Inorganic Chemistry
Other chemistry courses leading to BS in chemistry

As I've progressed in chemistry, I've realized that the aspects I enjoy the most of chemistry are the ones closest to physics. I've already applied to several theoretical chemistry PhD programs (and been accepted to one rather good one), so I don't plan on applying to physics PhD programs as well, but my questions are as follows:

1) If, as I begin graduate school, I continue to find that my interests tend toward work heavy in physics level QM-i.e. beyond things like DFT, ab initio methods, etc., in such fields as quantum field theory, could I just study it in the chemistry PhD program, possibly under a physicist?
2) If, once I begin a chemistry PhD program, I wish to laterally transfer to physics, how difficult would this be? Obviously, this could depend a great deal on the school I attend, but if anyone has any general idea I'd be interested.
3) And, most important of all, with my background in physics, could I survive graduate level physics work?

Any input from those familiar with this type of situation is much appreciated.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
im not an expert on this, but imo i think what you would want to do is aim for a masters in chemistry, taking coursework that is heavily in the physics dept. so that you could take a physics gre and be able to have enough study between your bs/ms to apply to a regular graduate program in physics.

ie: what classes are you still missing from the core physics undergrad, and can you squeeze them into your masters program?
 
Highway said:
im not an expert on this, but imo i think what you would want to do is aim for a masters in chemistry, taking coursework that is heavily in the physics dept. so that you could take a physics gre and be able to have enough study between your bs/ms to apply to a regular graduate program in physics.

ie: what classes are you still missing from the core physics undergrad, and can you squeeze them into your masters program?

I appreciate the advice, but in my situation, already having been accepted into a PhD program I'd like, I wouldn't want to give that up to pursue a masters. What I'd really like is the opportunity to study graduate physics and work with some physicists to see if that's where my interests lie. I know that some programs, in particular Harvard's chemical physics program, give the option of taking coursework in either the physics or chemistry departments, and have advisers from both departments. Maybe I'll get in there.
 
Elkoshi said:
I appreciate the advice, but in my situation, already having been accepted into a PhD program I'd like, I wouldn't want to give that up to pursue a masters. What I'd really like is the opportunity to study graduate physics and work with some physicists to see if that's where my interests lie. I know that some programs, in particular Harvard's chemical physics program, give the option of taking coursework in either the physics or chemistry departments, and have advisers from both departments. Maybe I'll get in there.

maybe, but since you are already accepted to graduate programs, you don't have to reapply as a masters student, you just change your course of study when you get there from a phd to a masters.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
Replies
28
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
5K
  • · Replies 43 ·
2
Replies
43
Views
10K
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K