Can a hydrogen atom become a neutron?

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The discussion revolves around the transformation of hydrogen atoms and neutrons, particularly in extreme conditions such as those found in stars. Participants explore the implications of high pressure and energy on atomic and subatomic particles, including the creation and decay of neutrons.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that under sufficient pressure, a hydrogen atom could become a neutron, particularly in the context of stellar environments.
  • Others propose that in extreme conditions, such as within a neutron star, protons and electrons could be compressed to form neutrons.
  • There is a question regarding the reverse process, where free neutrons might convert into hydrogen, raising concerns about the existence of neutronium meteors.
  • Participants note that free neutrons decay into protons, electrons, and neutrinos, complicating the formation of hydrogen from neutrons due to kinetic energy considerations.
  • One participant clarifies that a free neutron decays into a proton, electron, and an antineutrino, emphasizing the energy distribution between the electron and antineutrino in this process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the transformation between hydrogen and neutrons, with no consensus on the feasibility of these processes under various conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the role of kinetic energy in the binding of protons and electrons into hydrogen, indicating that conditions must be very specific for such transformations to occur.

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I read this from Nasa's website:

"Within the first second after the Big Bang, the temperature had fallen considerably, but was still very hot - about 100 billion Kelvin (1011 K). At this temperature, protons, electrons and neutrons had formed, but they moved with too much energy to form atoms. Even protons and neutrons had so much energy that they bounced off each other. However, neutrons were being created and destroyed as a result of interactions between protons and electrons. There was enough energy that the protons and the much lighter electrons combined together with enough force to form neutrons. But some neutrons "decayed" back into a positive proton and a negative electron."

Does this mean that under enough pressure a hydrogen atom can become a neutron?
 
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Yes. In some condition all the electrons and protons in a star could be compressed by gravity to become neutrons which form a neutron star.
 
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...and the reverse? Would a bunch of free neutrons just turn into hydrogen? That would mean no neutronium meteors carving holes in the Earth?
 
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Algr said:
...and the reverse? Would a bunch of free neutrons just turn into hydrogen? That would mean no neutronium meteors carving holes in the Earth?
A free neutron decays into a proton, electron and neutrino. Typically there is too much kinetic energy for the proton and electron to be bound as a hydrogen atom.
 
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PeroK said:
A free neutron decays into a proton, electron and neutrino.
No, antineutrino.
PeroK said:
Typically there is too much kinetic energy for the proton and electron to be bound as a hydrogen atom.
The energy is divided between electron and antineutrino.It is possible but rare for antineutrino to get all or almost all the energy and leave electron bound. The opposite is unlikely because antineutrino has no bound state to either proton or electron.
 
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Thanks everyone for your responses!:biggrin:
 

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