Can a star be a black hole in one frame of reference but not in another?

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The discussion centers on the relativistic observation of a star potentially being classified as a black hole from different frames of reference. One observer perceives the star undergoing length contraction and increased mass due to its velocity, leading to a calculation of a gravitational constant that suggests it is a black hole. In contrast, the observer at rest with the star calculates a different gravitational constant, indicating it is not a black hole. This discrepancy raises questions about the invariance of reality under Lorentz transformations and the conditions necessary for black hole formation.

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Hi,all, the problem is:

you and me observe a star, and the star moving with velocity V relative to me, and you are in the rest frame of the star.

Then in my frame of reference, I saw the star length contraction in the direction of its motion relative to me, hence its volume is smaller than its proper volume, and its mass is greater than its rest mass. Then I calculate its gravitational constant, say a.

And you calculate its gravitation constant as well, say you got a'

since i observe smaller volume and larger mass, so a>a'

if a just reach the limit that light can not escape from that star.

Then it will result in, In my frame, that star is a black hole, and in your frame, that star is Not.

however reality is invariant under lorentz transformation, so this can not be true, but where am I wrong??

Thanks in advance!
 
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The answer is on the http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/BlackHoles/black_fast.html" .
 
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The answer is on the http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/BlackHoles/black_fast.html" .

@Vanadium; thanks for replay, however the link you gave only refer to the star become a black hole or not relative to an observer in its rest frame. My question is 2 different observer in two different frame of references, observes same star.
(btw, I don't quite understand under what condition one can form a black hole)
But thanks again.
 
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