Can a State Trooper Transition into a Career in Mechanical Engineering?

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The discussion centers on the potential transition of a State Trooper into a career in mechanical engineering, focusing on the challenges of mathematics and foundational knowledge required for engineering studies. Participants explore the necessary preparations for advanced coursework, particularly in calculus, and the relevance of engineering credentials for specific career goals such as becoming an expert witness or working in automotive safety.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their math background, having only completed Algebra 2, and seeks advice on preparing for Calculus 3.
  • Another participant suggests that to prepare for Calculus 3, one must first learn Calculus 1 and 2.
  • Some participants argue that while math can be challenging, its application becomes more intuitive with practice.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of motivation and passion for the field as a significant advantage in pursuing engineering.
  • There is a mention of the competitive nature of engineering and the necessity of understanding both theoretical and practical aspects of the discipline.
  • One participant advises that earning a Professional Engineer (PE) credential is essential for becoming an expert witness and recommends taking the Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) exam.
  • Another participant notes that it is unrealistic to expect a direct jump from Algebra 2 to Calculus 3 without filling in foundational gaps, suggesting community college courses as a viable option.
  • There is a recommendation to learn computer programming before starting an engineering program.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational math and science knowledge for pursuing mechanical engineering. However, there are differing views on the best approach to prepare for advanced coursework, and no consensus is reached on the specific steps to take.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the participant's self-reported struggles with chemistry and the varying levels of preparedness among engineering students. The discussion does not resolve the specific pathways or timelines for transitioning into engineering.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a career change to mechanical engineering, especially those with non-traditional backgrounds or concerns about their math skills, may find this discussion relevant.

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I am currently a State Trooper that is working at becoming a crash reconstructionist (I love the technical side to this stuff!). I want to, in the next 10 years, retire from the State Patrol and pursue a career in mechanical engineering. I am only 28 years old now but I am deathly afraid of the math that is required. I made it to Algebra 2 and that was the extent of my math. I never really applied myself but I do find math somewhat easy. I am looking at online/on-campus mechanical engineering program at one of the local colleges and I look at Calculus 3 and wonder how in the world I can prepare for something like that before I go. I currently have my pilots license and feel ok in the physics but struggle with chemistry. I want the engineering background to either become an expert witness or to go to work in the automotive safety industry.

Am I embarking on a rewarding journey or am I should I re-think my career path?

Thanks in advance and please be blunt with me!
 
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I can help you on one of your questions: to prepare for Calculus 3 you must learn Calculus 1 and 2 ;)
 
The math really isn't that difficult, it's the application that takes a while to get the hang of.
 
Trooper332 said:
I currently have my pilots license and feel ok in the physics but struggle with chemistry. I want the engineering background to either become an expert witness or to go to work in the automotive safety industry.

Firstly, it sounds like you're strongly driven to a specific goal. This weighs heavily in your favor. I'm sure we've all noticed that its easier to do things we want to do than things we don't.

Secondly, you probably shouldn't look at the finish-line of the marathon before you take the first few steps. Its not encouraging its discouraging.

Lastly, engineering is a very competitive field. Engineering is fundamentally the application of physical theory (chemistry, physics, etc.) to design theory. You will meet people who have specific names for all the different types of Lego pieces, people who know which proteins break down in a medium rare steak that don't break down in a rare steak, and people who get an almost perverse pleasure from understanding the specifics of their daily lives.

The reason that these people (sorry for the stereotype... I'm an engineer, too folks!) gravitate towards the field is because of the nature of it. Even once you have the full toolbox of math, science, and design theory you will still have to find ways to implement those tools and engineer something...

...and each time you do this, the math gets more intuitive.

Remember the first time someone gave you the keys to a car? You were overwhelmed by the new tools at your disposal. But as you integrated each one into your driving their use became intuitive; you no longer have to think about when to signal, how hard to press the gas pedal, or how to feather a clutch.

Likewise, someone will hand you the keys to advanced mathematics and science. You'll struggle the first few times, hit the brakes at the wrong moments, stop short, forget to signal when your lane ends, do 45 in a 35, and you might even be involved in a tiny fender-bender. But when you're done, you're left with powerful new tools that you can call upon at anytime to help you solve problems.
 
Trooper332 said:
I want the engineering background to either become an expert witness or to go to work in the automotive safety industry.

In order to be an expert witness it is absolutely essential that you earn a PE credential. Make sure you take the FE [Fundamentals of Engineering] exam http://www.ncees.org/exams/fe_exam.php as a student, and then see what the requirements are for professional registration.
 
Trooper332 said:
I am currently a State Trooper that is working at becoming a crash reconstructionist (I love the technical side to this stuff!). I want to, in the next 10 years, retire from the State Patrol and pursue a career in mechanical engineering. I am only 28 years old now but I am deathly afraid of the math that is required. I made it to Algebra 2 and that was the extent of my math. I never really applied myself but I do find math somewhat easy. I am looking at online/on-campus mechanical engineering program at one of the local colleges and I look at Calculus 3 and wonder how in the world I can prepare for something like that before I go. I currently have my pilots license and feel ok in the physics but struggle with chemistry. I want the engineering background to either become an expert witness or to go to work in the automotive safety industry.

Am I embarking on a rewarding journey or am I should I re-think my career path?

Thanks in advance and please be blunt with me!

There is no reason to expect that you should make the jump directly from algebra 2 to calculus 3! In fact, most engineering undergraduates don't start with calculus 3; many (maybe even the majority) take calculus 1 and 2 their first year.

You will certainly want to fill in the gaps between algebra 2 and calculus 1 before applying, though. Pretty much any community college should have course offerings that will bring you up to speed. Same with basic (more or less high school level, and a bit beyond) chemistry and physics. Typically you can just sign up for such classes without having to apply for any sort of degree program. Take these and do well in them and you should be no worse positioned than any other applicant to a four-year engineering program. Oh, and learn some computer programming before you start, if you haven't already.
 

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