Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around whether the product of two elements $[a]$ and $[b]$ from the group ${\Z / n\Z}^{\times}$ is also an element of ${\Z / n\Z}^{\times}$. The scope includes theoretical aspects of group theory and properties of modular arithmetic.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- Cbarker1 presents the problem of proving that if $[a]$ and $[b]$ are in ${\Z / n\Z}^{\times}$, then $[a] \times [b]$ is also in ${\Z / n\Z}^{\times}$.
- Some participants argue that the statement is not true, providing a counterexample with $[2]$ and $[3]$ in ${\Z / 6\Z}^{\times}$, where their product results in $[0]$, which is not in the group.
- There is a clarification about the definition of ${\mathbb Z/n\mathbb Z}^{\times}$, which includes elements that are coprime to $n$.
- One participant suggests that the problem can be rephrased in simpler terms, focusing on the gcd condition: if $\gcd(a,n)=\gcd(b,n)=1$, then $\gcd(ab,n)=1$.
- Another participant discusses the group structure of $(\mathbb Z/n\mathbb Z)^\times$, noting that it consists of elements with multiplicative inverses and provides examples of inverses in specific cases.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express disagreement regarding the initial claim, with some providing counterexamples and others attempting to clarify the conditions under which the claim might hold. The discussion remains unresolved as multiple perspectives are presented without consensus.
Contextual Notes
There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the elements and their properties, particularly concerning the gcd conditions and the nature of the group elements.