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The discussion centers on the existence and uniqueness of a polynomial \( q(x) \) in the vector space of real polynomials of degree \( \leq n \) that satisfies the integral equation \( \int_{-1}^1 p(x) e^x dx = \int_0^1 p(x) q(x) dx \) for all \( p(x) \) in that space. It is established that \( q(x) \) is unique by applying the Riesz representation theorem, which states that a linear functional on a finite-dimensional inner product space can be represented uniquely by an inner product with a specific element of that space. For the case when \( n = 1 \), the participants suggest using specific polynomials to derive equations that will help solve for \( q(x) \). The integrals involving \( q \) lead to a system of equations that can be solved to find the coefficients of \( q(x) \). The conversation emphasizes the importance of the Riesz representation theorem in proving the uniqueness of \( q(x) \).
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Hello! (Wave)

Let $\mathbb{R}[x]_{ \leq n}$ be the vector space of the real polynomials of degree $\leq n$, where $n$ a natural number. I want to show that there is a unique $q(x) \in \mathbb{R}[x]_{\leq n}$, with the property that $\int_{-1}^1 p(x) e^x dx=\int_0^1 p(x) q(x) dx$, for each $p(x) \in \mathbb{R}[x]_{\leq n}$. For $n=1$, I want to find the above polynomial $q(x)$.Could you give me a hint how to prove the uniqueness of a polynomial $q$ with the property that $\int_{-1}^1 p(x) e^x dx=\int_0^1 p(x) q(x) dx$ ? (Thinking)
 
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evinda said:
Hello! (Wave)

Let $\mathbb{R}[x]_{ \leq n}$ be the vector space of the real polynomials of degree $\leq n$, where $n$ a natural number. I want to show that there is a unique $q(x) \in \mathbb{R}[x]_{\leq n}$, with the property that $\int_{-1}^1 p(x) e^x dx=\int_0^1 p(x) q(x) dx$, for each $p(x) \in \mathbb{R}[x]_{\leq n}$. For $n=1$, I want to find the above polynomial $q(x)$.Could you give me a hint how to prove the uniqueness of a polynomial $q$ with the property that $\int_{-1}^1 p(x) e^x dx=\int_0^1 p(x) q(x) dx$ ? (Thinking)

Hey evinda!

Suppose that for a given $p(x)$ with $\int_0^1 p(x)dx\ne 0$ we assume that $q(x)=q_0$.
Then:
$$\int_{-1}^1 p(x) e^x dx=\int_0^1 p(x) q(x) dx
=\int p(x)q_0dx \quad\Rightarrow\quad
q_0=\frac{\int_{-1}^1 p(x) e^x dx}{\int_0^1 p(x)dx}
$$
Similarly we can assume that $q(x)=q_1 x$ and find a different solution, can't we? (Wondering)

It seems to me that $q(x)$ is not unique. (Worried)
 
I like Serena said:
It seems to me that $q(x)$ is not unique. (Worried)

It is indeed the case that $q(x)$ is unique. Let the vector space $\Bbb R[x]_{\le n}$ be equipped with the inner product defined by setting $\langle p,q\rangle = \int_0^1 p(x)q(x)\, dx$. The mapping $L : \Bbb R[x]_{\le n} \to \Bbb R$ defined by the equation $L(p) = \int_{-1}^1 p(x)e^x\, dx$ is a linear functional on the finite-dimensional normed linear space $(\Bbb R[x]_{\le n}, \langle\cdot,\cdot\rangle)$, so by the Riesz representation theorem there is a unique $q(x) \in \Bbb R[x]_{\le n}$ such that $L(p) = \langle p,q\rangle$ for all $p(x)\in \Bbb R[x]$, i.e., $\int_{-1}^1 p(x)e^x\, dx = \int_0^1 p(x)q(x)\, dx$ for all $p(x)\in \Bbb R[x]$.

In the case $n = 1$, write $p(x) = a + bx$ and set up two equations with $p(x) = 1$ and then $p(x) = x$ to obtain the solution for $p(x)$.
 
Euge said:
It is indeed the case that $q(x)$ is unique. Let the vector space $\Bbb R[x]_{\le n}$ be equipped with the inner product defined by setting $\langle p,q\rangle = \int_0^1 p(x)q(x)\, dx$. The mapping $L : \Bbb R[x]_{\le n} \to \Bbb R$ defined by the equation $L(p) = \int_{-1}^1 p(x)e^x\, dx$ is a linear functional on the finite-dimensional normed linear space $(\Bbb R[x]_{\le n}, \langle\cdot,\cdot\rangle)$, so by the Riesz representation theorem there is a unique $q(x) \in \Bbb R[x]_{\le n}$ such that $L(p) = \langle p,q\rangle$ for all $p(x)\in \Bbb R[x]$, i.e., $\int_{-1}^1 p(x)e^x\, dx = \int_0^1 p(x)q(x)\, dx$ for all $p(x)\in \Bbb R[x]$.

Which version of the Riesz representation theorem do we use? (Thinking)
Euge said:
In the case $n = 1$, write $p(x) = a + bx$ and set up two equations with $p(x) = 1$ and then $p(x) = x$ to obtain the solution for $p(x)$.

For $p(x)=1$ we get that $\int_0^1 q(x) dx=e-\frac{1}{e}$.

For $p(x)=x$ we get that $\int_0^1 x q(x) dx=xe^x-\left( e-\frac{1}{e}\right)$.

How do we find from the above equalities the function $q(x)$ ? (Thinking)
 
evinda said:
Which version of the Riesz representation theorem do we use? (Thinking)
Baby Version: If $L : V \to \Bbb C$ is a linear functional on a finite dimensonal inner product space, then there is a unique $w\in V$ such that $L(v) = \langle v,w\rangle$ for all $v\in V$.
evinda said:
For $p(x)=1$ we get that $\int_0^1 q(x) dx=e-\frac{1}{e}$.

For $p(x)=x$ we get that $\int_0^1 x q(x) dx=xe^x-\left( e-\frac{1}{e}\right)$.

How do we find from the above equalities the function $q(x)$ ? (Thinking)
You are suppose to compute the integrals involving $q$ using the form $q(x) = a + bx$. This will result in a system of two equations in two unknowns $a$ and $b$.
 
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