Can a Wi-Fi Car Diagnostic Tool Detect Problems Through Sound?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of using a mobile device to diagnose car problems through sound detection. Participants explore the potential for an app that could identify issues based on audio cues, considering both theoretical and practical implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the idea of using a mobile device to detect sounds from a car to identify problems.
  • Another participant argues that while mechanics use stethoscopes to locate sounds, a fixed device may not be able to provide useful information due to distance limitations.
  • Some sounds might indicate issues, but uncertainty remains about whether any sound can pinpoint the exact problem.
  • A suggestion is made that developing an app would require a comprehensive database of sounds associated with various car problems.
  • It is noted that using the car's diagnostic interface may be a more effective method than sound detection.
  • Some participants express optimism about the potential of software to diagnose problems better than humans, citing examples of recognizable sounds.
  • Concerns are raised about the limitations of sound in diagnosing certain mechanical faults, such as worn bearings or exhaust issues.
  • One participant mentions that experienced mechanics often use sound in conjunction with other diagnostic methods, suggesting that AI could replicate this process.
  • A device that connects to the car's diagnostic port and is accessed via a smartphone app is referenced as a related concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of skepticism and optimism regarding the effectiveness of sound-based diagnostics. There is no consensus on whether such a method could reliably identify car problems, and multiple competing views remain on the topic.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights various assumptions about the capabilities of sound detection technology and the need for further exploration into its practical applications in automotive diagnostics.

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Is it doable that we can place mobile device on our auto and by detecting a sound coming out from car we can know where is the problem * if there is one?
 
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IMO, no. When an engine or other component is making an unusual noise, mechanics will sometimes use a stethoscope placed against various parts of the motor to get an idea of where the noise is coming from, and thereby, some idea of what might be causing the noise. I'm assuming that the device you're talking about is in a fixed location, so I don't think it would be able to get close enough to where it needs to be to provide useful information.

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If you're trying to develop an app like this you'll probably have to create a database of sounds from all different makes and models of cars along with the type of problem.

However, I think using the car's diagnostic interface would be more effective.
 
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jedishrfu said:
However, I think using the car's diagnostic interface would be more effective.
Bingo, each car should have it's own diagnostic system in place.
 
Most systems don't help identify mechanical faults such as a worn wheel bearing, shock or perforated exhaust.
 
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I think it would be a good idea to try. If a mechanic can diagnose a problem by the sound, software should be able to do it better.
 
russ_watters said:
I think it would be a good idea to try. If a mechanic can diagnose a problem by the sound, software should be able to do it better.

I heard and I saw that few people do that. But I really don't know if they are lying or they are able to do that.

Also probably many things can't be diagnosed by sound but this could be like "first aid" or something.
 
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I'm not much of a car guy, but there are obvious problems I've heard before like valves tapping and an exhaust system that was failing (cracking tailpipe). I would expect that software would be able to recognize faster and subtler sounds than people could, much like an EKG can identify heart problems from subtle sound cues.
 
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Most experienced mechanics can identify a range of faults using sound, sometimes sound alone but usually in combination with other things such as what the driver has to do to provoke the sound. It helps if they are familiar with the make and model. Pretty sure this is something an AI system could also do but I suspect a mechanic is cheaper.
 
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