Can AB-BA ever equal the identity matrix?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether the expression AB - BA can equal the identity matrix I for any two matrices A and B. Participants explore properties of determinants and traces in relation to this problem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of multiplying by inverses and the challenges of handling higher-dimensional matrices. There is a focus on determinants and their properties, particularly in the context of subtraction. Questions arise regarding the relationship between the determinants of products and their differences.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights about determinants and traces. Some guidance has been offered, such as considering the trace of the expression, but no consensus or resolution has been reached.

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Participants are considering the implications of Sylvester's determinant theorem and the properties of matrices in relation to the identity matrix. There is uncertainty regarding the generalizability of certain properties across different dimensions of matrices.

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The task is to prove that for no two matrices A and B, A*B - B*A = I, where I is the identity matrix.
I tried multiplying by the inverses of A or B, but that doesn't seem to lead to a more manageable form. The only way I see this could be done is by writing down all n*n (assuming n by n matrices) linear equations. It's easy to do when n = 2, but the same contradiction may not be as obvious for higher n.
I hope there is a more intelligent way to go about this.
 
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What do you know about determinants?
 
I know that det(AB) = det(BA), but I don't know what are the properties when subtraction is involved. Except for the case when only one line is different.
 
hamsterman said:
I know that det(AB) = det(BA), but I don't know what are the properties when subtraction is involved.

Determinant is just a number, isn't it?
 
What I mean is that I don't know what is det(AB-BA) even if I do know det(AB) and det(BA).
I'm looking at Sylvester's determinant theorem which looks related, but I still don't see a solution. Now I need to prove that for no M, det(M+I) = det(M)[STRIKE], at least when M = AB..[/STRIKE] (now that I think about it, there is probably no matrix that can't be written as a product of two others, is there?)
 
hamsterman said:
What I mean is that I don't know what is det(AB-BA) even if I do know det(AB) and det(BA).
I'm looking at Sylvester's determinant theorem which looks related, but I still don't see a solution. Now I need to prove that for no M, det(M+I) = det(M)[STRIKE], at least when M = AB..[/STRIKE] (now that I think about it, there is probably no matrix that can't be written as a product of two others, is there?)

Try taking the trace.
 
So tr(AB-BA) = 0 ? Great. Thanks.
 

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