Can actuaries benefit from analysis?

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The discussion centers around the educational path for aspiring actuaries, specifically the balance between taking analysis courses and statistics courses. Participants explore the relevance of these subjects to the actuarial profession and the implications of choosing one over the other.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a preference for analysis courses over statistics due to the rigor in proofs, questioning whether this choice would negatively impact their future as an actuary.
  • Another participant suggests that while taking analysis courses is acceptable, dropping statistics courses may not be advisable, emphasizing the importance of foundational knowledge in statistics.
  • A later reply reiterates the idea that mathematical finance could be beneficial, but cautions against sacrificing too many statistics classes, as their utility may vary depending on the actuarial field.
  • One participant shares insights from actuary forums, indicating that higher mathematics may offer limited direct application to actuarial work, but could enhance general mathematical maturity.
  • Another participant lists potential courses to choose from, weighing options between advanced statistical methods and various analysis topics, and seeks opinions on the relevance of the statistics courses mentioned.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the optimal course selection, with multiple competing views on the importance of statistics versus analysis in actuarial studies. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for the participant's educational choices.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the applicability of higher mathematics to the actuarial profession and the necessity of specific statistics courses. The discussion reflects a lack of clarity on how different areas of study may impact future career opportunities.

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Hello

In my country you need a bachelor and master to become and actuary. And that is what I am studying now.

There are ofcourse some subjects you have to take, but you can also choose subjects. Of these free subjects statistics subjects are listed as reccomended.

I've taken statistics classes in my bachelor degree(I have one more year left), and they are ok, but I have also taken mathematics classes and that is where the problem is. I feel that in statistics they do not prove things in an adequate way, and that annoys me. But in subjects like analysis they prove everything, it is amazing to see the enitre subject beeing built up from very basic concepts. So I would like to take more analysis courses instead of statistics courses. Is this a bad idea if I want to work as an actuary?

I do not want to change to pure mathematics, because of the work oppurtunities, and I do not really think I am so smart enough to be working in those fields.
 
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It's not a bad idea to take the analysis courses, but it may be a bad idea to drop the statistics courses.

If you don't think they teach the underlying principles of statistics in those courses, get a textbook and teach them to yourself. You may also find you get farther into the fundamentals in higher level stats classes.
 
Locrian said:
It's not a bad idea to take the analysis courses, but it may be a bad idea to drop the statistics courses.

If you don't think they teach the underlying principles of statistics in those courses, get a textbook and teach them to yourself. You may also find you get farther into the fundamentals in higher level stats classes.
Thanks for your reply. Just to make it clear, there aren't really any staitsics courses I have to choose, but there is a long list of courses that are recommended for the free subsjects(the list is way too big to take all). However, almost all the courses on this list are statitics courses. But for instance on the mathematical finance list, most are analysis courses. Mathematical finance looks more interesting, and they seem to work with subjects where things are proved rigoursly. But there you do not get the actuary-title. Would it be a bad idea to study mathematical finance, but take the courses needed to get the actuary-title?(There are no exams etc. in my country like in the US, you need a master with some required courses.)
 
A little mathematical finance would be a good thing to have under your belt. Don't give up too many statistics classes to take it though. How useful those classes are will depend on what area of actuarial work you end up in.
 
Extrapolating from what I've readon on actuary forums, I'd say that regarding knowledge actually applicable to the actuarial profession, there is little to be gained from higher math apart from a general mathematical maturity. Nothing wrong with that though, I suppose.
 
Locrian said:
A little mathematical finance would be a good thing to have under your belt. Don't give up too many statistics classes to take it though. How useful those classes are will depend on what area of actuarial work you end up in.


Gauss M.D. said:
Extrapolating from what I've readon on actuary forums, I'd say that regarding knowledge actually applicable to the actuarial profession, there is little to be gained from higher math apart from a general mathematical maturity. Nothing wrong with that though, I suppose.

Thanks for your answers. I would still have to take the courses in life insurancy, general insurance, and courses in fincancial mathematicas.

The choice will basically be to in addition take courses like either:

-topology
-functional analysis
-stochastic analysis
-mathematical finance

or:

-multivariate analysis
-bayesian methods
-spatial statistics
-statistical inference(I'd like to take this no matter what I choose)

Would you say that the last statistics-courses are very relevant?
 

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