Can AI Truly Learn Independently Without Free Will?

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The discussion centers on the belief that AI will never achieve free will, despite its potential to learn independently. Participants debate the nature of free will, questioning whether humans possess it and how it relates to AI's capabilities. The conversation touches on the limitations of AI, emphasizing that it operates within binary systems and lacks true randomness, which is essential for free will. Additionally, the role of external input in both human and AI learning is examined, with some arguing that all learning is a response to stimuli. Ultimately, the complexity of decision-making in both humans and AI raises philosophical questions about autonomy and predictability.
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Because the universe started at a single point, everything in the universe can be traced back to that point, and because everything is based on cause and effect nothing is really random. Everything is based on what happened since the universe started at that single point and all the interactions (based on cause and effect) since then, therefore everything is deterministic, but only the universe itself is a big enough computer to actually determine the future.
 
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rogerperkins said:
Because the universe started at a single point, everything in the universe can be traced back to that point, and because everything is based on cause and effect nothing is really random. Everything is based on what happened since the universe started at that single point and all the interactions (based on cause and effect) since then, therefore everything is deterministic, but only the universe itself is a big enough computer to actually determine the future.

Unfortunately, you have probably never heard of quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, irreversibly etc.

http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~ldb/seminar/laplace.html
 
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moridin is right, but you may want to realize what you're discussing transcends disciplines.
m. already pointed out the scientific problems with your statement.

So, let's try this:

John Calvin's Predestination matches what you are discussing. He applied an early idea of a deterministic universe where God is your "computer" to discuss what became of people and their souls. This is more of a philosophical or theological approach to determinism than trying to use big bang theory to describe it.
 

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