Can anyone learn Physics alone (without a teacher) ?

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The discussion revolves around whether students can learn physics independently without a teacher. Participants explore foundational topics in physics, necessary mathematical and chemistry prerequisites, the time required to achieve proficiency, and preferences for specific branches of physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest starting with classical mechanics and then moving to electromagnetism, while others mention the importance of understanding the four main theories: Classical Mechanics, Electromagnetism, Quantum Mechanics, and Thermal/Statistical Physics.
  • There is a consensus that a solid grasp of basic algebra, geometry, trigonometry, and calculus is essential, with some emphasizing the need for multivariable calculus and differential equations for more advanced studies.
  • Some participants argue that chemistry is not a strict requirement for studying physics, though it may provide some problem-solving skills, particularly in fields like condensed matter and material science.
  • Regarding the time to achieve proficiency in physics, opinions vary widely, with some stating it could take a month while others suggest it might take a lifetime, emphasizing that perfection is unattainable.
  • Participants express differing views on the "best" branch of physics, indicating that it is subjective and dependent on personal interests and career goals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational topics and mathematical prerequisites, but there is no consensus on the necessity of chemistry or the best branch of physics to study. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the time required to become proficient in physics.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the necessity of specific mathematical topics and the subjective nature of the best branch of physics depend on individual learning paths and career aspirations, which are not universally applicable.

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Can anyone learn Physics alone (without a teacher) ??

I'm doing a research about { If students can study Physics without teachers } and I need answers to these questions , please...:confused:

1-What are the topics in Physics which the student MUST learn in the beginning of learning Physics ?
2-What are the mathematical topics (or theories) which the student should study before studying Physics ?
3-What are the Chemistry topics which the student should study before studying Physics (to help him) ?
4-What is the average time would the student take to be perfect in Physics ?
5-What is the best branch of Physics to study (Thermodynamics -Nuclear Physics -Electromagnetism -...) {or any other branch}

:smile:Thanks everybody..:smile:
 
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Have you tried looking at a typical college level curriculum? If not, try it! You will find similarities in an undergraduate curriculum in many schools. That should be your starting point in figuring out what all physics majors must know.

I've also outlined the relevant subject areas in my "So you want to be a physicist" essay.

The "best " branch of physics is a meaningless categorization since it is highly subjective.

Zz.
 
Mohamed.AG said:
I'm doing a research about { If students can study Physics without teachers } and I need answers to these questions , please...:confused:

1-What are the topics in Physics which the student MUST learn in the beginning of learning Physics ?

I would start with classical mechanics. Then you should then do electromagnetism. Books like Kleppner and Purcell are very difficult but very valuable if you want to continue in physics. Don't start with these books, but you should do them once.

2-What are the mathematical topics (or theories) which the student should study before studying Physics ?

Before you can do algebra-based physics, you should have a nice grasp on basic algebra, geometry, trig and precalc. Not all these topics will be necessary, but you need a good grasp on mathematics nevertheless.

Actual physics is calc-based however. And for that you need to know calculus, multivariable calculus and differential equations (although easy books like Halliday will just require a very modest amount of calculus, but the harder the book, the more math you'll need).

3-What are the Chemistry topics which the student should study before studying Physics (to help him) ?

I don't think chemistry is a hard requirement. It might help in some way though.

4-What is the average time would the student take to be perfect in Physics ?

Depends on you. Might be a month, might be a lifetime. You'll never be perfect though.

5-What is the best branch of Physics to study (Thermodynamics -Nuclear Physics -Electromagnetism -...) {or any other branch}

Depends on you.
 
Mohamed.AG said:
1-What are the topics in Physics which the student MUST learn in the beginning of learning Physics ?

The four main theories in physics are currently Classical Mechanics, Electromagnetism, Quantum Mechanics, and Thermal/Statistical Physics. There are numerous other very interesting fields, but most of them rely on the concepts established in the above areas.

2-What are the mathematical topics (or theories) which the student should study before studying Physics ?

To pursue physics in earnest, one will need Calculus (up to multivariable and vector analysis), linear algebra, ordinary and partial differential equations, complex variables, and probably some group theory.

3-What are the Chemistry topics which the student should study before studying Physics (to help him) ?

Probably just General chemistry. Chemistry in general doesn't help that much in phsyics, except for maybe giving some problem solving skills (although chemistry is probably a good thing to know for fields like condensed matter and material science).

4-What is the average time would the student take to be perfect in Physics ?

You will never be perfect. Professors spend the better part of their lives doing physics and any of them will tell you they are not perfect at physics.

5-What is the best branch of Physics to study (Thermodynamics -Nuclear Physics -Electromagnetism -...) {or any other branch}

Completely up to personal preference. If you want to go at it from the angle of what field is best to know for applications, there are other resources for that.
 

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