Can anyone suggest a non-piecewise function within the interval (0,1)?

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The discussion revolves around the search for a non-piecewise function defined on the interval (0,1) that is one-to-one and onto. Participants explore various mathematical functions and their properties, including their domains and ranges, while considering the requirements of the problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a function that is contained in the interval (0,1) and is not piecewise defined.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "contained," suggesting clarification on whether it refers to function values ranging from y=0 to y=1.
  • A suggestion is made to restrict the domain of a function, with an example of f(x) = x² + x - 5, which is defined only in (0,1).
  • Another function proposed is y = 1/√(-x(x - 1)), which is defined only on the interval (0,1).
  • A participant clarifies their goal of proving the existence of a one-to-one and onto function from (0,1) to the real numbers, mentioning the complexity of the inverse function.
  • One participant suggests that the function y = x is onto (0,1) and discusses the possibility of using a variation of the tangent function to achieve a one-to-one and onto mapping from (0,1) to all real numbers.
  • Another participant reiterates the use of the tangent function, providing a specific formulation f(x) = tan(-π/2 + πx) and confirming it meets the criteria for a one-to-one correspondence with the real numbers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition of "onto" and the types of functions that can be used. While some suggest specific functions, there is no consensus on a single function that meets all criteria without being piecewise defined.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of "one-to-one" and "onto," as well as the implications of using trigonometric functions versus non-piecewise functions. The complexity of the inverse functions is also noted but not fully explored.

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I'm just wondering if anyone can think of a function that is contained in (0,1). I've been brainstorming for awhile and I can't think of anything particularly. Furthermore, it would be fantastic if it was not piecewise defined as well. Help would be appreciated!
 
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what do u mean it is contained, that for any values of x the values of the function varie from y=0 to y=1 or what?
 
I'm essentially looking for a function where x is contained in the open interval of (0,1). Someone suggested tan(x) might work, but I would rather not use trigonometric functions.
 
You can give any function you think of, and then restrict the domain of the function to be (0, 1), like this:

f: (0, 1) --> R
x |--> x2 + x - 5

That means, your f now, is only defined in (0, 1), and undefined everywhere else.

Or, if you want some other nicer function, then square root is a function to look for:

In the reals, the function [tex]y = \frac{1}{\sqrt{-x(x - 1)}}[/tex] is only defined on the interval (0, 1), and undefined everywhere else.
 
Sorry, I should have clarified. I'm trying to prove that there exists a function between (0,1) that is 1-1 and onto, therefore the range of this function must span all y values, and the domain is contained in (0,1).

For example, between (-1,1) f(x) = x/(x^2-1) works, but when I tried converting that into a form that is simply between (0,1), the inverse function looks exceptionally nasty! Using the inverse, I'm basically proving the function is onto, which in turn is proving that the (0,1) ~ R. Proving the function is 1-1 simply requires that the derivative is either always positive or always negative.
 
One to one and onto? Onto what? If I were talking about a function with domain between 0 and 1 and said it was "onto" the reasonable assumption would be it was "onto" (0, 1). The function y= x does that nicely!

As for a function that is one-to-one and onto from (0, 1) to the set of all real numbers, I would think a variation on tan(x) would work nicely. tan(x) covers all real numbers for x between [itex]-pi/2[/itex] and [itex]\pi/2[/itex] so [itex]f(x)= tan(-\pi/2+ \pi x)[/itex] should work nicely: when x= 0, [itex]-\pi/2+ \pi (0)= -pi/2[/itex]. When x= 1, [itex]-pi/2+ \pi (1)= \pi/2[/itex]. Unless I have misunderstood what you are looking for, that should be exactly what you want.
 
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One to one and onto? Onto what? If I were talking about a function with domain between 0 and 1 and said it was "onto" the reasonable assumption would be it was "onto" (0, 1). The function y= x does that nicely!

As for a function that is one-to-one and onto from (0, 1) to the set of all real numbers, I would think a variation on tan(x) would work nicely. tan(x) covers all real numbers for x between [itex]-pi/2[/itex] and [itex]\pi/2[/itex] so [itex]f(x)= tan(-\pi/2+ \pi x)[/itex] should work nicely: when x= 0, [itex]-\pi/2+ \pi (0)= -pi/2[/itex]. When x= 1, [itex]-pi/2+ \pi (1)= \pi/2[/itex]. Unless I have misunderstood what you are looking for, that should be exactly what you want.

You are pretty much the man! Thanks a whole heap. And yes, I was looking for a 1-1 correspondence between (0,1) and R. I might have neglected to mention that.
 

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