Can Compression Springs Experience Relaxation Under Extended Load?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether compression springs experience relaxation or weakening when subjected to extended loads. It explores the effects of material properties, creep, and stress relaxation, as well as the implications of repeated loading cycles on spring performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that leaving a compression spring under load for extended periods may weaken it or shorten its lifespan, depending on the material properties.
  • Others argue that low creep materials are unlikely to fail under such conditions, indicating that many springs can withstand extended loading without significant issues.
  • Corrosion and creep are mentioned as factors that could accelerate weakening when a material is under stress for long durations.
  • Questions are raised about whether a spring reaches a full set after one cycle or continues to set through repeated cycles, with some suggesting that leaving it under load may aid in reaching full set.
  • Participants discuss the distinction between stress relaxation and creep, noting that both phenomena can occur under different testing conditions.
  • There is acknowledgment that the severity of effects like plastic deformation and fatigue cannot be easily estimated without further information or experimentation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of extended loading on compression springs, with some asserting potential weakening while others maintain that many springs can endure such conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent of these effects and the conditions under which they occur.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific material properties, the need for experimental data to assess the severity of effects like creep and fatigue, and the ambiguity surrounding the definitions of terms like "full set" and the conditions of stress relaxation versus creep.

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would you weaken or shorten the life span of a compression spring by leaving it under a load for extended periods?
 
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Yes. The degree to which this does involves several factors which can be significantly different for different spring materials.
That's my opinion anyway.
 
Well it depends what the spring is make from really. A low creep material will never fail under the leading you describe. So the vast majority of springs will be fine under extended loading.
 
craigfperry said:
would you weaken or shorten the life span of a compression spring by leaving it under a load for extended periods?

Corrosion can accelerate when a material is under stress, so yes, it's possible. Creep will also be significant at sufficiently large temperatures and times.
 
thanks for your answers,
does the spring reach a full set after one cycle?
does it continue to set thru repeated cycles?
do you think it helps to leave it under a load for a bit to reach it's full set?
 
craigfperry said:
thanks for your answers,
does the spring reach a full set after one cycle?
does it continue to set thru repeated cycles?
do you think it helps to leave it under a load for a bit to reach it's full set?

The spring may plastically (i.e., permanently) deform upon the first cycle. After that, creep will occur to some degree as long as stress is applied. Additionally, crack growth (i.e., fatigue) may occur with cycling. It's impossible to estimate the severity of these two effects without more information (and may be impossible without doing experiments on the sample).
 
You may experience stress relaxation in stead of creep, that is for sure.
 
Fred's absolutely right, I should have been more precise. If you displace the end of the spring by a constant amount and observe the spring's decreasing resistance (force) over time, it's termed a stress relaxation test. If you apply a constant load and observe the continued compression (displacement) over time, it's termed a creep test. The phenomenon of time-dependent mechanical response of an undamaged specimen is generally referred to as creep. Does this sound right to you, Fred?
 
Yupper. I was thinking more along the lines of how compression springs tend to not return to their original length after being compressed. Both modes can definitely be experienced though. Relaxation was the first thing that popped into my mind though.
 

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