Can Cosmology Offer Hope for Humanity's Future Beyond Our Solar System?

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The discussion revolves around the potential of cosmology to provide insights into humanity's future beyond our solar system. Participants explore the implications of the speed of light as a travel limit, the value of cosmological discoveries, and the purpose of cosmology itself, encompassing theoretical, conceptual, and philosophical dimensions.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the speed of light limits human travel beyond the solar system, questioning the feasibility of exploring distant galaxies.
  • Others argue that cosmology has provided significant insights into the universe's origins and evolution, suggesting it is far from futile.
  • A participant introduces a humorous perspective on the vastness of space and the nature of existence, referencing Douglas Adams' works.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential end of funding for cosmological research and its implications for the field.
  • Discussions about the purpose of cosmology lead to varied interpretations, with some viewing it as a pursuit of knowledge and others questioning its practical benefits.
  • Some participants propose that advancements in cosmology lead to new physics and engineering techniques, which can benefit society even if direct practical results are not immediately evident.
  • There is a suggestion that cosmology serves a broader purpose, akin to providing a sense of value and meaning, similar to the role of particle physics in society.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement. While some acknowledge the contributions of cosmology, others challenge its practical relevance and the implications of travel limitations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the ultimate purpose and value of cosmology.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about the feasibility of space travel, the nature of cosmological measurements, and the potential for technological advancements stemming from cosmological research. These assumptions remain open to interpretation and debate.

  • #31
heldervelez said:
Cosmology is a study not only of Present conditions, but also of Past, and also the Future conditions. Unlike History we can read also about future.
True. But cosmology's scope is just too large in scale to ever have a significant impact upon humanity. Unless, perhaps, we become an inter-galactic civilization, but that seems rather unlikely.
 
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  • #32
Chalnoth said:
True. But cosmology's scope is just too large in scale to ever have a significant impact upon humanity. Unless, perhaps, we become an inter-galactic civilization, but that seems rather unlikely.

It is my belief, that in the future Mankind will spread Life thru far way. Need energy, time and knowledge.

'c' speed will not stop us.
Not in our times of course.
 
  • #33
heldervelez said:
It is my belief, that in the future Mankind will spread Life thru far way. Need energy, time and knowledge.

'c' speed will not stop us.
Not in our times of course.
Well, let's see if we can't make it to another star system first.
 
  • #34
Cosmology will became the religion of the future

Has human beeings we sense the surrounding ambient with a limited time span.
We naturally think that we live in a stable, self regulated ambient.
It is not so. As examples: The graphs of the evolution of atmospheric CO2 in the long term shows a steady regular decrease. Life needs free CO2. We need Life.
About 13000 years ago the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_culture" was baned off the surface of the Earth. If it happens now the North Americans would became extincts.

The Earth is dangerously little and threatened. Resources are limited.
Mankind have to construct a safer future.
A metaphor: Life choose the Human Species to be the saviour. Cosmology will became the religion(*) of the future.

Digging Cosmology we will have answers to those perturbing issues.


(*) the positive side: provide informed guidance.
 
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  • #35
I really don't understand the question here. There seems to be implicit assumption in the question that if we can't physically go there, there's no point in learning anything about it.

Man, that would make science a lot simpler, wouldn't it?
No more studies of Earth's core.
No more studies of the cores of stars or black holes.
No more string theory.
No more archeology.
The list goes on.

I have a better question: what makes something futile to study? when does learning not enrich us?
 
  • #36


heldervelez said:
Has human beeings we sense the surrounding ambient with a limited time span.
We naturally think that we live in a stable, self regulated ambient.
It is not so. As examples: The graphs of the evolution of atmospheric CO2 in the long term shows a steady regular decrease. Life needs free CO2. We need Life.
About 13000 years ago the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_culture" was baned off the surface of the Earth. If it happens now the North Americans would became extincts.

The Earth is dangerously little and threatened. Resources are limited.
Mankind have to construct a safer future.
A metaphor: Life choose the Human Species to be the saviour. Cosmology will became the religion(*) of the future.

Digging Cosmology we will have answers to those perturbing issues.


(*) the positive side: provide informed guidance.
I don't see how cosmology has anything to say about this whatsoever. If you want to talk about really, really long time scales, then astrophysics and thermodynamics have something to say, if we live that long. But not cosmology.
 
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