Can CSI and AM-GM Inequalities Solve Trigonometric Equation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the trigonometric equation $\sin a \cos b + \sin b \cos c + \sin c \cos a = \frac{3}{2}$ using the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality and the AM-GM inequality. Participants explore the implications of these inequalities in the context of the equation, examining potential solutions and the conditions under which equality holds.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality to establish an upper bound for the left-hand side of the equation.
  • Another participant elaborates on the conditions for equality in the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality, suggesting that the sine and cosine functions must be scalar multiples of each other.
  • It is noted that equality in the AM-GM inequality occurs when the involved numbers are equal, leading to a relationship between the sine and cosine values of the angles.
  • Participants discuss the implications of these relationships, concluding that each angle must be an odd multiple of $\pi/4$ for the equation to hold.
  • Specific solutions are presented for the angles $a$, $b$, and $c$ within the interval $[-\pi, \pi]$, with a detailed table of solutions provided.
  • Several participants express appreciation for the combined approach of using both inequalities, indicating a learning experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There appears to be a general agreement on the application of the Cauchy–Schwarz and AM-GM inequalities, as well as the resulting conditions for the angles. However, the discussion does not resolve whether there are additional solutions or alternative methods to approach the problem.

Contextual Notes

The discussion relies on specific assumptions about the angles and the properties of the sine and cosine functions. The implications of the inequalities are contingent on these assumptions, and the exploration of solutions is limited to the specified interval.

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Solve the equation $\sin a \cos b+ \sin b \cos c+ \sin c \cos a=\dfrac{3}{2}$
 
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$a=b=c=\dfrac{ \pi}{4}$ solves the equation by inspection. There may be other solutions.
 
Ackbach said:
$a=b=c=\dfrac{ \pi}{4}$ solves the equation by inspection. There may be other solutions.

Thanks for participating, Ackbach:)...but...

Since the answers to this particular challenge are infinite, I would give you $\dfrac{1}{\infty}$ mark, hehehe...:p
 
Fine. Be that way! How about $a,b,c \in \left\{ \dfrac{ \pi}{4} \pm n \pi \bigg| n \in \mathbb{Z} \right \}?$
 
Ackbach said:
Fine. Be that way! How about $a,b,c \in \left\{ \dfrac{ \pi}{4} \pm n \pi \bigg| n \in \mathbb{Z} \right \}?$

Sorry Ackbach, that is still not correct...
 
[sp]Using first the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality and then the AM-GM inequality, $$\begin{aligned}\sin a \cos b+ \sin b \cos c+ \sin c \cos a &\leqslant \sqrt{(\sin^2a + \sin^2 b + \sin^2c)(\cos^2a + \cos^2b + \cos^2c)} \\ &\leqslant \tfrac12(\sin^2a + \sin^2 b + \sin^2c + \cos^2a + \cos^2b + \cos^2c) = \tfrac32.\end{aligned}$$ Equality in the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality only occurs if the vectors are scalar multiples of each other. In this case, that means that there exists a scalar $\lambda$ such that $$\sin a = \lambda\cos b, \qquad \sin b = \lambda\cos c, \qquad \sin c = \lambda\cos a.$$ Equality in the AM-GM inequality only occurs if the numbers are equal. In this case, that means that $\lambda^2(\cos^2a + \cos^2b + \cos^2c) = (\cos^2a + \cos^2b + \cos^2c)$, so $\lambda^2 = 1$. It then follows that $$\sin^2a = \cos^2b = 1-\sin^2b = 1-\cos^2c = \sin^2c = \cos^2a.$$ Thus $\cos a = \pm\sin a$ and similarly for $b$ and $c$. So each of $a$, $b$, $c$ is an odd multiple of $\pi/4$. Each of the three products $\sin a \cos b$, $\sin b \cos c$ and $\sin c \cos a$ must be $\pm1/2$, and in fact they must all be $+1/2$ if their sum is to be $3/2$. So $\cos b$ must have the same sign as $\sin a$, and similarly for the other two products. There are thus eight solutions in any interval of length $2\pi$, given by the possible choices of sign in the equations $$\sin a = \cos b = \pm\tfrac1{\sqrt2},\qquad \sin b = \cos c = \pm\tfrac1{\sqrt2},\qquad \sin c = \cos a = \pm\tfrac1{\sqrt2}.$$ In the interval $[-\pi,\pi]$ the solutions are: $$\begin{array}{c|c|c} a&b&c \\ \hline \pi/4 & \pi/4 & \pi/4 \\ 3\pi/4 & \pi/4 & -\pi/4 \\ \pi/4 & -\pi/4 & 3\pi/4 \\ 3\pi/4 & -\pi/4 & -3\pi/4 \\ -\pi/4 & 3\pi/4 & \pi/4 \\ -\pi/4 & -3\pi/4 & 3\pi/4 \\ -3\pi/4 & 3\pi/4 & -\pi/4 \\ -3\pi/4 & -3\pi/4 & -3\pi/4 \\ \end{array}$$[/sp]
 
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[sp]Using first the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality and then the AM-GM inequality, $$\begin{aligned}\sin a \cos b+ \sin b \cos c+ \sin c \cos a &\leqslant \sqrt{(\sin^2a + \sin^2 b + \sin^2c)(\cos^2a + \cos^2b + \cos^2c)} \\ &\leqslant \tfrac12(\sin^2a + \sin^2 b + \sin^2c + \cos^2a + \cos^2b + \cos^2c) = \tfrac32.\end{aligned}$$ Equality in the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality only occurs if the vectors are scalar multiples of each other. In this case, that means that there exists a scalar $\lambda$ such that $$\sin a = \lambda\cos b, \qquad \sin b = \lambda\cos c, \qquad \sin c = \lambda\cos a.$$ Equality in the AM-GM inequality only occurs if the numbers are equal. In this case, that means that $\lambda^2(\cos^2a + \cos^2b + \cos^2c) = (\cos^2a + \cos^2b + \cos^2c)$, so $\lambda^2 = 1$. It then follows that $$\sin^2a = \cos^2b = 1-\sin^2b = 1-\cos^2c = \sin^2c = \cos^2a.$$ Thus $\cos a = \pm\sin a$ and similarly for $b$ and $c$. So each of $a$, $b$, $c$ is an odd multiple of $\pi/4$. Each of the three products $\sin a \cos b$, $\sin b \cos c$ and $\sin c \cos a$ must be $\pm1/2$, and in fact they must all be $+1/2$ if their sum is to be $3/2$. So $\cos b$ must have the same sign as $\sin a$, and similarly for the other two products. There are thus eight solutions in any interval of length $2\pi$, given by the possible choices of sign in the equations $$\sin a = \cos b = \pm\tfrac1{\sqrt2},\qquad \sin b = \cos c = \pm\tfrac1{\sqrt2},\qquad \sin c = \cos a = \pm\tfrac1{\sqrt2}.$$ In the interval $[-\pi,\pi]$ the solutions are: $$\begin{array}{c|c|c} a&b&c \\ \hline \pi/4 & \pi/4 & \pi/4 \\ 3\pi/4 & \pi/4 & -\pi/4 \\ \pi/4 & -\pi/4 & 3\pi/4 \\ 3\pi/4 & -\pi/4 & -3\pi/4 \\ -\pi/4 & 3\pi/4 & \pi/4 \\ -\pi/4 & -3\pi/4 & 3\pi/4 \\ -3\pi/4 & 3\pi/4 & -\pi/4 \\ -3\pi/4 & -3\pi/4 & -3\pi/4 \\ \end{array}$$[/sp]

Nice!
I hadn't thought of combining Cauchy–Schwarz and AM-GM yet.
 
Awesome, Opalg! I have never used the technique to apply the CSI and AM-GM inequality one after another, you have taught me a great lesson today! Thank you so much!
 

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