Can Differential Equations with Boundary Conditions Have Non-Unique Solutions?

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation with boundary conditions, specifically examining a two-parameter family of solutions represented by the equation y = c1e^x cos x + c2e^x sin x. The original poster is tasked with determining if a member of this family can satisfy the boundary conditions y(0) = 0 and y(π) = 0.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of setting c1 and c2 based on the boundary conditions, questioning whether c2 can take on arbitrary values or specific forms. There is a focus on whether a nontrivial solution exists and what values of c2 would satisfy the conditions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of the coefficients c1 and c2. Some guidance has been offered regarding the flexibility of c2, while others emphasize the need to ensure that the solution meets the boundary conditions without being identically zero.

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There is a noted ambiguity regarding the requirement for a nontrivial solution, as well as the interpretation of the boundary conditions in relation to the parameters of the solution family.

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Homework Statement


The given two-parameter family is a solution of the indicated differential equation on the interval
(−infinity, infinity).
Determine whether a member of the family can be found that satisfies the boundary conditions. (If yes, enter the solution. If an answer does not exist, enter DNE.)

y = c1e^x cos x + c2e^x sin x; y'' − 2y' + 2y = 0

I completed the 1st 3 but I don't know this one
(d) y(0) = 0, y(π) = 0

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The Attempt at a Solution


when y(0) = 0 :
0=c1 e^(0)cos(0)+c2 e^(0)sin(0)
c1=0

when y(π) = 0:
0=c1e^π cosπ+c2 e^π sinπ
0=c1e^π+0
c1=0
 
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That tells you that c_1 = 0. But c_2 can be anything! You're not asked to find a unique solution, but to find at least one solution.
 
so can I say c2=0 making:

y=e^x cosx ?
 
Sneakatone said:
so can I say c2=0 making:

y=e^x cosx ?

Your original problem should have stated you were looking for a solution that isn't identically zero that satisfies the boundary conditions. Your answer I have quoted doesn't satisfy ##y(\pi)=0##. The point is, can you find a ##c_2## that isn't zero so you have a nontrivial solution?
 
Sneakatone said:
so can I say c2=0 making:

y=e^x cosx ?

No, you've already established that the coefficient of e^x \cos(x) must be zero. It's the coefficient of e^x \sin(x) which is arbitrary, since c_2e^0 \sin(0) = 0 = c_2e^{\pi} \sin(\pi) for any c_2 \in \mathbb{R}.
 
Sneakatone said:
so can I say c2=0 making:

y=e^x cosx ?
That is a valid answer but you are taking c2= 1, not 0.
 
HallsofIvy said:
That is a valid answer but you are taking c2= 1, not 0.
No it isn't. See post #4.
 
can c2 be -cot(x) ? or can I put any number and it will be correct?
 
Sneakatone said:
can c2 be -cot(x) ? or can I put any number and it will be correct?

##c_1## and ##c_2## are constants. Post #2 pointed out to you ##c_1=0## and ##c_2## can be anything. Try something. Then check if the solution you get satisfies the two boundary conditions.
 

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