Can e+e- collisions produce e+e- pairs through two-photon processes?

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The discussion centers on the processes involved in electron-positron (e+e-) collisions and whether these collisions can produce e+e- pairs through two-photon processes. Participants explore concepts related to particle-antiparticle annihilation, gamma ray interactions, and the conditions necessary for pair production.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the nature of antimatter annihilation and whether it can be visualized as wave cancellation.
  • Another participant explains that annihilation requires balancing conserved quantities, which is only possible between particles and their antiparticles.
  • A participant inquires about the possibility of creating an electron-positron pair from a gamma ray of 512 MeV.
  • It is noted that to create an e+e- pair from gamma rays, a pair of gamma rays is needed to balance momentum, and that such collisions can theoretically produce pairs.
  • One participant mentions that gamma-gamma collisions are unlikely due to a small cross-section and that no e+e- pairs have been produced in this manner yet.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of two-photon processes in e+e- collisions, explaining that photons can be produced from the interaction of electron and positron beams, which can then lead to e+e- pair production.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the likelihood and mechanisms of pair production in e+e- collisions, with some uncertainty regarding the feasibility of gamma-gamma collisions for producing e+e- pairs.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the conditions under which pair production occurs and the specifics of momentum balancing in photon interactions.

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Hi, I don't think I understand why antimatter annihilates when it touches matter, should I picture has it as if it was a wave that canceled an other one?

Or is it something else entirely?

Thanks.
 
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The best answer is probably because it can!
For two particles to be able to annihilate each other you have to be able to balance all the conserved quantities (charge, spin, momentum ) this is only possible if one of the particles is the anti-particle of the other.
 
Well while I'm here I might ask.

I read that 1 electron and 1 positron annihilate to make a gamma ray of 512 Mev, can you take a gamma rays of 512 Mev and make 1 electron and 1 positron?
 
You need to make a pair of gamma rays to balance the momentum - but yes you can collide two gamma rays and create an electron-positron pair.
ps. An electron is 511 KeV ( or 0.511MeV )
 
mgb_phys said:
You need to make a pair of gamma rays to balance the momentum - but yes you can collide two gamma rays and create an electron-positron pair.

Actually, gamma-gamma collision is not very likely yet (very small cross-section), and so far, we haven't produced any e-p pair that way.

Zz.
 
Ok, mere mortals can't but the universe can.
 
ZapperZ said:
Actually, gamma-gamma collision is not very likely yet (very small cross-section), and so far, we haven't produced any e-p pair that way.

I'm not so sure that's true. There are what are called two-photon processes in e+e- collisions. What happens is that the electron and positron beams get near each other, and each beam feels an acceleration from the other, and radiates a photon: these photons can then interact and produce anything that couples to the photon: including an e+e- pairs. In a sense, you use the electrons to "carry the photons around" pre-collision.

So the process would be [tex]e^+ + e^- \rightarrow e^+ + e^- + \gamma + \gamma \rightarrow e^+ + e^- + e^+ + e^-[/tex].
 

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