Can Fourier Transformation be Used for Amplitude of a Free Particle?

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The discussion centers on the application of Fourier transformation in calculating the amplitude for a free particle's propagation in quantum mechanics, specifically referencing the work of Peskin & Schroeder. Participants explore the mathematical steps involved in deriving the amplitude and express confusion regarding the use of Fourier transformation in this context.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation for the amplitude of a free particle and expresses confusion about the final result, questioning the use of Fourier transformation.
  • Another participant acknowledges the original approach but does not clarify the discrepancy, suggesting that the participant's solution is different from that of Peskin & Schroeder.
  • A later reply indicates that the last step involves completing the square and evaluating a Gaussian integral, hinting at a potential correction to the original confusion.
  • There is a suggestion that the expression should resemble an exponential form, but this is not definitively established.
  • One participant challenges the validity of directly replacing terms in the Fourier transformation, indicating a misunderstanding in the application of the transformation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the application of Fourier transformation and the correctness of the final expressions. There is no consensus on the proper approach or resolution of the confusion surrounding the calculations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the application of Fourier transformation, particularly in the context of Gaussian integrals and the evaluation of amplitudes.

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I hope this is the correct place for my question. I posted it here, because it`s from Peskin & Schroeder:
"Consider the amplitude for a free particle to propagate from \mathbf{x}_{0} to \mathbf{x} :

U(t)=\left\langle \mathbf{x}\right|e^{-iHt}\left|\mathbf{x_{0}}\right\rangle

In nonrelativistic quantum mechanics we have E=p^2/2m, so

U(t)&=&\left\langle \mathbf{x}\right|e^{-i(\mathbf{p}^{2}/2m)t}\left|\mathbf{x}_{0}\right\rangle

<br /> =\int\frac{d^{3}p}{(2\pi)^{3}}\left\langle \mathbf{x}\right|e^{-i(\mathbf{p}^{2}/2m)t}\left|\mathbf{p}\right\rangle \left\langle \mathbf{p}\right.\left|\mathbf{x_{0}}\right\rangle

<br /> =\frac{1}{(2\pi)^{3}}\int d^{3}p\, e^{-i(\mathbf{p}^{2}/2m)t}\cdot e^{i\mathbf{p}\cdot(\mathbf{x}-\mathbf{x}_{0})}<br />

<br /> =\left(\frac{m}{2\pi it}\right)^{3/2}\, e^{im(\mathbf{x}-\mathbf{x}_{0})/2t}}<br />
."

I don't understand the last equation.
Why I can't use the fourier-transformation:

<br /> =\frac{1}{(2\pi)^{3}}\int d^{3}p\, e^{-i\mathbf{p}\cdot(\mathbf{x}_{0}-\mathbf{x})}\widetilde{f}(\mathbf{p})<br />

<br /> =f(\mathbf{p})<br />

<br /> =e^{-i(\mathbf{x}-\mathbf{x}_{0})^{2}/2m)t}<br />
 
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but is what you have don actually ;)

marco
 
Sry, I don't understand. My solution is a different one as from Peskin & Schroeder. But why?
 
karlsson said:
<br /> =\int\frac{d^{3}p}{(2\pi)^{3}}\left\langle \mathbf{x}\right|e^{-i(\mathbf{p}^{2}/2m)t}\left|\mathbf{p}\right\rangle \left\langle \mathbf{p}\right.\left|\mathbf{x_{0}}\right\rangle

<br /> =\frac{1}{(2\pi)^{3}}\int d^{3}p\, e^{-i(\mathbf{p}^{2}/2m)t}\cdot e^{i\mathbf{p}\cdot(\mathbf{x}-\mathbf{x}_{0})}<br />

<br /> =\left(\frac{m}{2\pi it}\right)^{3/2}\, e^{im(\mathbf{x}-\mathbf{x}_{0})/2t}}<br />
."

I don't understand the last equation.

The last step is made by completing the square and evaluating the gaussian integral (although with complex coefficient). I suspect the expression should be ~exp[im(x-x_0)^2/2t] though...

Why I can't use the fourier-transformation:

The last step is precisely the evaluation of a Fourier transform. In what you write next:

<br /> =\frac{1}{(2\pi)^{3}}\int d^{3}p\, e^{-i\mathbf{p}\cdot(\mathbf{x}_{0}-\mathbf{x})}\widetilde{f}(\mathbf{p})<br />

<br /> =f(\mathbf{p})<br />

<br /> =e^{-i(\mathbf{x}-\mathbf{x}_{0})^{2}/2m)t}<br />

It looks like you have simply taken \widetilde{f}=f and replaced the \mathbf{p} argument with \mathbf{x}-\mathbf{x}_0.. If so then this is wrong. The Fourier transform should be evaluated as in the last step of your first equation (i.e. completing the square as I wrote)
 
jensa said:
I suspect the expression should be ~exp[im(x-x_0)^2/2t] though...

You are right.

jensa said:
The last step is made by completing the square and evaluating the gaussian integral ...

Thanks a lot.
 

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