Can Green Peas Really Grow Inside the Human Body?

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of seeds, specifically green peas, potentially growing inside the human body, as illustrated by a reported case of a pea found in a man's lung. Participants explore the implications of such occurrences, reactions to the event, and related anecdotes about seeds germinating in human anatomy.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a specific case of a pea growing in a man's lung, noting that while it is unusual, it is not without precedent for seeds to germinate in living bodies under certain conditions.
  • One participant shares a related anecdote about a grass seed that germinated in a child's kidney, suggesting that seeds can cause significant harm if they penetrate the body.
  • There is discussion about the body's coughing reflex and its role in preventing foreign objects from reaching the lungs, with some participants speculating on the conditions that would allow a seed to bypass this reflex.
  • Reactions to the man's decision to eat peas after the incident are mixed, with some expressing disgust and surprise at his ability to consume them again.
  • Another participant clarifies that the peas eaten after the surgery were not the same as the one found in the lung, indicating a distinction between the two events.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that while the occurrence of seeds growing in the human body is rare, it is not entirely unheard of. However, there is no consensus on the implications of such events or the reactions to them, leading to a mix of opinions and emotional responses.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of detailed medical explanations regarding the physiological responses to foreign objects in the lungs and the specific conditions under which seeds might germinate in human tissues.

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Well, at least this one is:

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpps/news/offbeat/pea-of-life-grows-in-ny-man's-lung-dpgonc-km-20100810_9112207
 
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“I laughed to myself and ate them"
 
Pythagorean said:
Well, at least this one is:

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpps/news/offbeat/pea-of-life-grows-in-ny-man's-lung-dpgonc-km-20100810_9112207
This is by no means an appetising story, nor is it an everyday event, but it certainly is not without precedent. Seeds have been known to germinate in living human and animal bodies under various circumstances. I remember one particularly nasty case locally when a seed of a particularly nasty grass, known locally as "steekgras", meaning sticking or piercing grass germinated in the kidney of a little girl. The seeds are long, narrow, pointed, barbed and rigid. Usually they cause little harm except to the clothing and economy of the farmer on his land the grass grows, but they are barbed and if they stick into the flesh, they can work their way in. I assume that what happened to this girl was that in a romp she got stuck by a seed which she could not remove and forgot about. It wound up in her kidney before germinating. It must have been painful enough (kidney damage is fiendishly painful) to cause her to end up in hospital, where the surgeons discovered (and solved) the problem.
One seldom finds seeds germinating in lungs, because the coughing reflex in the trachea is extremely strong; get any irritating object, such as a food item, down your windpipe and you may well cough till your heart stops, but you will cough. (Incidentally, in case anyone reading this has never worked with a concentrated source of sulphur dioxide, believe me, it has much the same effect! As soon as it touches your windpipe you cough. You then instantly inhale in reaction, which means you cough again. This is a typical positive-feedback cycle and goes to competition in about one second, by which time your lungs are about as empty as you can cough them, and you are running like crazy to the nearest source of fresh air! Physiologically the gas is not particularly poisonous, but it has a peremptory way with self-confident laboratory novices.)
Seeds however. If one gets past the trachea, into the bronchi, one is past the point where the lungs stimulate the coughing reflex. This makes a certain amount of sense, because the ebb and flow of gas deep in the lungs is negligible, far too weak to eject a massive object like a seed. As a rule, if you cannot get rid of the object by bouncing upside down (as Brunel did when he swallowed a coin) then surgical intervention of some sort is about the only thing that will work.
 
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hypatia said:
“I laughed to myself and ate them"

That is one of the nastiest and most revolting reactions I've ever heard! He ATE IT?? Oh man.

As Jon says, this isn't unprecedented, but eating it might be. *throws up a little*

I'm a little surprised that the pea didn't trigger a fatal immune reaction in the lung...
 
nismaratwork said:
That is one of the nastiest and most revolting reactions I've ever heard! He ATE IT?? Oh man.

As Jon says, this isn't unprecedented, but eating it might be. *throws up a little*

I'm a little surprised that the pea didn't trigger a fatal immune reaction in the lung...

Naw, it wasn't the same peas. IIRC, his friends brought him a can of peas after he was stabilized.
 
If you just read the article:
One of his first meals following surgery in the hospital included a side of peas. “I laughed to myself and ate them,” he told WHDH TV.
 
Ok... but I'd still be off peas for life...
 

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