Why Apes and Humans don't have Tails

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In summary, almost all vertebrates have a tail, except for the ape/human clade of primates. This is due to a mobile element in the genome near the brachyury gene that changed its regulation, resulting in a no tail phenotype. This change also led to an increase in neural tube defects in genetically modified mice. The selective advantage of not having a tail is not clear, but it may be due to bipedal locomotion in apes and humans. Birds are also bipedal, but their tail is involved in flight. This finding highlights the complexity of gene regulation and how mutations can have different effects in different areas of the body. In Darwin's time, there was no understanding of genes or genetics, but
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Almost all vertebrates have a tail (part of the body axis that extends posterior of the anus. A post-anal tail is often listed as a characteristic of vertebrate (many animals have their anus at the end of the body, no post-anal axial structures). The most obvious exception to this are the ape/human clade of primates, founded by animals that lacked an external tail.

This paper and this Science mag news article explain why:
A mobile element (an Alu sequence) in the ape/human predecessor seems to have jumped to a new place in the genome near the encoding brachyury gene, changing its regulation and resulting in a no tail developed phenotype. Brachyury is a mouse regulatory gene with a short tail phenotyps. In zebrafish the same mutation is called no tail because it has a no tail phenotype (ntl below, wt = wild type).

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The tail is posterior to the anus, which will be at the end of the tube of yoke extending from that big ball of yolk. This area is developmentally different from more anterior parts of the body axis because it is no longer in contact with the main body of the egg where some developmental signals, not found in the tail, come from.

The insertion of the second Alu sequence is thought to cause a loop in the DNA by binding in some way with a second pre-existing Alu sequence near by the brachyury encoding gene. This DNA that results from the second Alu sequence alters the expression of the gene, which alters axial development (development of anterior-posterios axis) in the tail region.
This is an interesting, but not really surprising finding.

Genetically modified mice have been made with a second Alu sequence near the brachyury gene which have shorter tails.
The genetically modified mice also had unusually high levels of neural tube problems, defects in the developing spinal cord. Such birth defects, which produce spina bifida, where the spinal cord doesn’t close, and anencephaly, where parts of the brain and skull are missing, are fairly common in humans, affecting as many as one in 1000 newborns.

Its also not clear what the selective advantage of not having a tail might be. A locomotion benefit was proposed but not well supported.I like how an indirect change in the genome leads to the phenotype that results from a complex developmental process (several other genes produce similar phenotypes.
This also highlights that being a gene is not limited to gene encoding protein products(one of my favorite rants):
  • a mutation does not have to directly affect an protein encoding gene (some people think this is the only way to think of a gene) to produce a phenotype. In this case it is a change in regulation that causes the phenotype.
  • The gene affected is part of a bunch of genes all affection tail development through a complex developmental mechanism. The same mutation can have different effects in other areas of the body because different genes are involved in the different area's developmental processes.
  • Not in this case, but other mutations causing phenotypes could be affecting RNA genes (no translation required).
  • Similarly, changes in spacing of regulatory elements can also cause new phenotypes (many examples in the bithorax complex of genes in Drosophila).

In Darwin's day, there was no understanding of what a gene was (or the name I believe). There were inherited traits, but no real theory of genetics to explain or help understand them. Not until Mendel was rediscovered were genes mapped to linear collections, which later turned out to be chromosomes. Even then, they were abstract markers of differences, that have an effect through unknown mechanisms. Darwinian evolution could be argued to involve changes in these abstract factors of inheritance, which NeoDarwinian evolution involved changes in more concrete abstractions. It took 30-40 years for the molecular biology to explain what was going on (inmost cases of inheritance).
 
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BillTre said:
The most obvious exception to this are the ape/human clade of primates, founded by animals that lacked an external tail...

Its also not clear what the selective advantage of not having a tail might be. A locomotion benefit was proposed but not well supported.
Maybe the advantage is lack of disadvantage? The obvious difference between most animals with tails and the obvious exceptions is bipedal locomotion. I don't need a tail to stabilize while walking/running because I can swing my arms instead. And I don't need it to swat flies away from my face either.
 
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russ_watters said:
Maybe the advantage is lack of disadvantage? The obvious difference between most animals with tails and the obvious exceptions is bipedal locomotion. I don't need a tail to stabilize while walking/running because I can swing my arms instead. And I don't need it to swat flies away from my face either.
I think think most apes are not considered bipedal, or at least not much more bipedal than monkeys.
Birds are bipedal, but their tail is intimately involved in flight, thus adaptive.
 
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Might've the apes and humans lost their tails suddenly, or over a very long long time?
 
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I think think most apes are not considered bipedal, or at least not much more bipedal than monkeys.
Well, the wiki at least describes a spectrum from optional (facultative) to mandatory (obligate). I think it's a given that evolution provides a spectrum since features don't just pop into existence fully-formed and utilized.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24315239/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facultative_bipedalism
"Chimpanzees exhibit bipedalism most often when carrying valuable resources (such as food gathering/transporting) because chimps can carry more than twice as much when walking bipedally as opposed to walking quadrupedally."
Birds are bipedal, but their tail is intimately involved in flight, thus adaptive.
Sure, ish. I think walking is a distant secondary feature to flight adaptations. Shout-out to the surviving evolutionary rejects though; ostriches and other flightless birds.

Sorry if I'm hijacking a bit here. I think your OP was more about the programming, but I'm a user and more interested in features. To me, the answer to "why" isn't about how the program was written its about how the need for the features drove the update.
 
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symbolipoint said:
Might've the apes and humans lost their tails suddenly, or over a very long long time?
Based on the source of the mutation, molecularly, it seems to have arisen all at once, as the Alu sequence inserted itself. There may have been compensatory mutations in other genes to reduce unpleasant "side effects".

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To me, the answer to "why" isn't about how the program was written its about how the need for the features drove the update.
I am not sure exactly what you mean, but my interpretation would be that the update (mutation to a new phenotype) would not be driven by the need for the feature.
The mutations are random and not evoked (except in a few unusual cases).
Instead, the new mutations would present opportunities that come with the new phenotype. Once established, they could be taken advantage of and selected for.
 
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russ_watters said:
Maybe the advantage is lack of disadvantage? The obvious difference between most animals with tails and the obvious exceptions is bipedal locomotion. I don't need a tail to stabilize while walking/running because I can swing my arms instead. And I don't need it to swat flies away from my face either.
https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-08-17
Wally from comic Dilbert finds a tail useful.
 
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256bits said:
Does the article say when the gene movement occurred?
Maybe it's when the ancestor had to move down from the trees, with less adaptation for climbing.
Its thought to have happened ~25 MYA or more recently.
This would have been the point where the ape/human clade was founded.

Prehensile tails are a new world (S. America) monkey trait. Not present in old world monkeys.
The apes part of the clade, include the well-known chimps and gorillas (large, less arboreal (tree living), live in Africa), as well as the lessor known orangutans and gibbons (S. Asia, more arboreal).
The orangutans and gibbons were derived before the chimps/gorillas.

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Gibbons are probably the best adapted of the apes to brachiating.


I am not aware of any fossils of the first of the human ape clade which might indicate what their founding ancestor was doing behaviorally, but probably living in trees.
 
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1. Why don't apes and humans have tails?

Apes and humans are classified as primates, and one of the defining characteristics of primates is that they have prehensile hands and feet. This means that their hands and feet are adapted for grasping and manipulating objects, rather than for locomotion. As a result, they do not need a tail for balance, and therefore have lost this trait through evolution.

2. Did apes and humans ever have tails?

Yes, the common ancestor of apes and humans, known as the last common ancestor, is believed to have had a tail. However, as primates evolved and adapted to their environments, the need for a tail decreased and it eventually disappeared in the ape and human lineages.

3. Do any apes or humans have tails?

No, no living apes or humans have tails. However, some species of monkeys, which are also primates, still have tails. This is because they have not undergone the same evolutionary changes as apes and humans.

4. Can apes and humans grow a tail if needed?

No, the genetic information for a tail has been lost in the ape and human lineages. Even if there was a need for a tail, it is not possible for it to reappear through evolution.

5. Are there any advantages to not having a tail?

Yes, not having a tail allows for a more upright posture and greater mobility. It also frees up the hands and feet for more specialized functions, such as tool use and grasping objects. Additionally, not having a tail reduces the risk of injury and makes it easier to navigate through trees and other obstacles.

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