Can I learn enough math to understand physics on my own?

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of self-learning mathematics, specifically calculus, to understand advanced physics topics such as Special Relativity (SR), General Relativity (GR), Quantum Electrodynamics (QED), and Quantum Chromodynamics (QCD). Participants explore resources and foundational knowledge necessary for this endeavor.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks opinions on whether a specific online calculus course is sufficient for understanding advanced physics topics, expressing a desire for self-taught learning.
  • Another participant suggests that while online resources like Khan Academy are valuable, a textbook is preferable for learning calculus comprehensively.
  • Some participants emphasize the necessity of a solid foundation in calculus, multivariable calculus, vector calculus, and linear algebra to tackle SR, GR, QED, and QCD.
  • It is noted that GR requires knowledge of differential geometry and tensor analysis, while QED necessitates a background in classical electromagnetism.
  • Quantum mechanics is mentioned as relying heavily on linear algebra and functional analysis for deeper understanding.
  • A recommendation for a specific book is made, which is described as a gentle introduction to the analysis needed for quantum mechanics.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of a solid mathematical foundation for understanding advanced physics, but there is no consensus on the best resources or specific pathways to achieve this understanding. Multiple views on the adequacy of different learning methods and materials are presented.

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Some participants note that the questions raised may have been addressed in previous threads, indicating a potential for overlapping discussions. There is also an acknowledgment of the complexity of the mathematics involved in advanced physics topics.

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http://www.khanacademy.org/math/calculus?k

Can I get honest opinions from the professional physicists out there? Will the course at that link give me a basic enough grounding in calculus to understand everything up to say SR, GR, QED and QCD? I've got the required maths up to trigonometry.

And yes, my studies will have to be self-taught. No, I'll not be more than an amateur in my studies. I just want to be able to work out the maths behind some of the most basic phenomena behind our existence; right now, I just have to take a person at their word. Which isn't very satisfying as you can imagine. :)

Thanks for your insights.
 
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Dang, I just saw the post right before mine..Embarrasing
 
Your topics are still different, to some extent.

You're much better off getting a book on Calculus than you are learning Calculus entirely from that website. Not that the KhanAcademy isn't a valuable resource, but you shouldn't be learning an entire branch of mathematics just from watching videos.

A quick search for Calculus textbooks: https://www.physicsforums.com/search.php?searchid=3344868 .
 
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Thanks, so you think that a solid understanding of calculus will allow me to work through the fundamental equations that describe SR, GR, QED and QCD?

I'll have to look and see which authors people recommend.
 
Xavius said:
Thanks, so you think that a solid understanding of calculus will allow me to work through the fundamental equations that describe SR, GR, QED and QCD?

I'll have to look and see which authors people recommend.

I'm not really qualified to answer a question like that. All that I do know is that, if you want to learn Calculus, learn it from books and not videos.
 
Ok, seems like the only way to do it after searching through the forums a bit. I need to realize that my questions have probably been answered 17 times already in different threads :)

Thanks though!
 
you definitely need a solid foundation in calculus, but that isn't enough if you want to understand SR, GR, QED, and QCD. After single variable calculus, you need a strong grounding in multivariable and vector calculus as well as linear algebra.

After you have those 3 down, you can probably tackle SR. For GR and the rest however, you will need some more mathematics but focus on learning those 3 for now.
 
Alright, well I'll see if I'm capable of tackling calculus first :)
 
GR is quite advanced mathematically. I hear it helps to have a background in differential geometry and tensor analysis. For QED you should probably have had classical electromagnetism first and that contains a lot of vector/multivariable calculus as well as differential equations. Quantum mechanics relies heavily on linear algebra and functional analysis if you want to go really deep. I personally like learning math in a physics context, but it also helps to have taken a few pure math courses to start off.
 
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Let me recommend you this wonderful book (it seems like nice gentle intro into analysis neede for QM). I think the left column might be enough of prerequisites + some linear algebra.
 

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