Can I mix these 3 chemicals together?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the safety and feasibility of mixing pure Benzene, Toluene, and Cyclohexane in a cuvette for spectroscopic testing. Participants explore the chemical interactions, potential hazards, and the implications for spectral analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the potential for harmful reactions when mixing the three chemicals, despite lacking expertise in chemistry.
  • Another participant suggests that the chemicals are unlikely to react favorably, but acknowledges the possibility of being incorrect.
  • A different participant emphasizes the need to test the spectroscopic source with the mixed chemicals, while also seeking reassurance about safety.
  • Some participants note that Benzene, Toluene, and Cyclohexane are hydrocarbons and do not expect any significant reactions when mixed.
  • It is mentioned that chemical spectra can be altered by solvents, indicating that the mixture's spectral properties may not simply be a combination of the individual spectra.
  • Warnings are given regarding the volatility and flammability of the chemicals, with specific mention of Benzene's carcinogenic properties.
  • Participants confirm that the three chemicals are miscible in all proportions and will form a blend without reacting under ambient conditions.
  • Discussion includes references to Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) and their availability, with some participants clarifying the accessibility of MSDS for different materials.
  • Concerns about inhalation toxicity and the importance of working in a fume hood are raised, highlighting safety considerations when handling these substances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the three chemicals will not react significantly when mixed and will simply blend. However, there are varying opinions on the implications for spectral analysis and safety concerns, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved regarding the best practices for mixing and testing.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of specifying solvents in spectral analysis due to non-chemical interactions, which may affect results. There are also mentions of safety precautions necessary when handling volatile and toxic substances.

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Can I mix these 3 chemicals together??

I'm not a chemist so don't laugh at my lack of knowledge:

I want to mix pure Benzene, Toluene and Cyclohexane into a single Cuvette. Is this alright? I'm not going to produce any harmful gases or weapons of mass destruction?

Thanks.
 
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I don't see any possible way for those chemicals to react to any favorable degree, then again, I may be wrong.
 


I actually need it to test out this spectroscopic source I built. I want to see if it can distinguish each spectra when the chemicals are mixed.

Just need to make sure I'm not going to be on a Most Wanted list tomorrow...
 


Those are just hydrocarbons, and of only Carbon and Hydrogen. One would not expect any reaction. A good plan is to first see the spectrum of each compound by itself before making the mixture.
 


Thanks. I've already seen the spectrums of each compound. :biggrin:
 


just don't light it on fire.
 


gravenewworld said:
just don't light it on fire.

I won't, but the laser propagating through it just might.
 


Except chemical spectra are altered by solvents - the non-chemical, electric interactions between your different species mean that the spectra of the sum is not just the sum of the spectra. This is why you always specify your solvent - for example, FTIR in methanol, FTIR in gas phase, NMR in CDCl3 with TMS reference, and so forth.

There is no harm in mixing these hydrocarbons, they will not react under ambient conditions. Be warned that they are volatile, flammable, and benzene is a known carcinogen.
 


They are all miscible in all proportions and will simply form a blend, no reaction will occur. Benzene is indeed carcinogenic, toluene is also toxic by inhalation. MSDS's for all three are available in public doman, just Google "MSDS Benzene" etc.
 
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MSDS's for all three are available in public doman, just Google "MSDS Benzene" etc.
Are some materials' MSDSs copyrighted and not legally available?
 
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Well, some materials' MSDS's will only be available from the company that manufactures them, whereas common commodity materials MSDS are freely available. Thats the point I was making.
 
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All solvents used in basic O-chem lab. I would recommend a nice hood breathing a lot of benzene or toluene isn't so good for you and they are all flammable but not going to explode or melt threw a test tube or really interact with each other in much of a serious way at all.
 
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If you mix together toluene, cyclohexane and benzene they will basically just mix. Thats it. Nothing else will happen.
 

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