How Can the Rate of One Reactant Reveal the Whole Reaction in Chemical Kinetics?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of chemical kinetics, specifically how the rate of reaction can be determined by measuring the rate of change of concentration of a single reactant or product. Participants explore the implications of stoichiometry in this context and raise questions about the relationship between the rate of one species and the overall reaction rate.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the rate of change of concentration of just one species can provide information about the entire reaction.
  • Another participant asserts that stoichiometry allows for the calculation of the amounts of all other reactants and products based on the change in concentration of any one reactant.
  • A participant requests an example to illustrate how the concentration change of one reactant is sufficient to determine the reaction rate when multiple reactants and products are involved.
  • Participants discuss a hypothetical reaction and the stoichiometric relationships between reactants and products, questioning how the rates of consumption and production relate to one another.
  • There is confusion about whether the rate of consumption of one reactant implies the same rate for another reactant, given their stoichiometric coefficients.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the distinction between the rate of reaction and the rate law, suggesting that understanding this difference is crucial for grasping the overall concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that stoichiometry plays a key role in relating the rates of different species in a reaction. However, there is no consensus on the clarity of how one reactant's rate can determine the overall reaction rate, and confusion persists regarding the relationship between rate and rate law.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of stoichiometric coefficients in determining the rates of consumption and production, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these relationships for understanding reaction rates and rate laws.

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This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners in chemistry, particularly those interested in chemical kinetics and the mathematical relationships governing reaction rates.

Chemer
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Hi,
Can anyone explain me that in chemical kinetics, the rate of reaction can be determined by just determining the rate of any reactant of product involved in the reaction, but how? How the rate of change of concentration of just one specie can tell you about the whole reaction?
I found the example of fermentation of sucrose at a site and I couldn't understand this point:
" The coefficients show us that the reaction produces four molecules of ethanol and four molecules of carbon dioxide for every one molecule of sucrose consumed. As before, we can find the reaction rate by looking at the change in the concentration of any reactant or product. In this particular case, however, a chemist would probably use the concentration of either sucrose or ethanol because gases are usually measured as volumes and, the volume of CO2gas formed will depend on the total volume of the solution being studied and the solubility of the gas in the solution, not just the concentration of sucrose."
I can't understand the CO2 point, how Co2 volume depends on volume of solution and why ignoring it wouldn't affect the rate determination?
 
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Chemer said:
How the rate of change of concentration of just one specie can tell you about the whole reaction?

Reaction follows stoichiometry, so if you know change in the amount of any reagent, you can easily calculate how much of every other reagent involved was produced/consumed.

Chemer said:
how Co2 volume depends on volume of solution

Again, stoichiometry. The more the solution, the more gas is produced.
 
Can you give me an example? How just one reactant concentration change is enough to calculate reaction rate? If you have two reactants forming two or more products?
 
A + 2B -> 3C + 4D

Let's say, 1 second passed, and the amount of A consumed was 1 mole.

Apparently, reaction rate for A is 1 mole per second.

How many moles of B were consumed?

What is the reaction rate for B?

How many moles of C were produced?

What is the reaction rate for C?
 
Is it based on:
Rate of consumption of A = Rate of consumption of B and are equal to rate of production of C= rate of production of D?
Then the reaction rate of B will also be 1mol/sec? Confused!
 
Chemer said:
Is it based on:
Rate of consumption of A = Rate of consumption of B and are equal to rate of production of C= rate of production of D?
Then the reaction rate of B will also be 1mol/sec? Confused!
The stoichiometry of the reaction tells you how many moles of B get chewed up per mole of A. If one molecule of A reacts, two molecules of B must have also reacted, no? If the rate of consumption of A is 1 mole per second, how many moles of B are consumed in one second?
 
But how this explain that the reaction rate can be found by just looking at the rate of any specie involved in the reaction?
And if just one reactant is enough to determine the rate of the reaction, then why we use the product of concentration of reactants in rate equation?
 
Chemer said:
But how this explain that the reaction rate can be found by just looking at the rate of any specie involved in the reaction?
And if just one reactant is enough to determine the rate of the reaction, then why we use the product of concentration of reactants in rate equation?

You are confusing two things, which are often confused by people. The rate versus the rate law.

Rate = How fast reactants (or products) are disappearing (or appearing). Rate law = expression that relates the rate to concentrations.

Once you know how fast one reactant is disappearing (the rate), you can use the stoichiometry to calculate how fast other reactants are disappearing, as well as how fast products are forming.

Determining a rate law is much more difficult.
 
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