Can I Start Studying Physics While Learning Calculus?

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The discussion centers on whether a person can begin studying physics while simultaneously learning calculus, particularly in the context of self-study. Participants share their experiences and recommendations regarding textbooks and the prerequisites for understanding physics concepts effectively.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to start studying physics using Halliday and Resnick while learning calculus from Spivak.
  • Another participant suggests postponing physics if the individual has no prior exposure to differentiation and integration, indicating that Spivak may be challenging for beginners.
  • A participant mentions planning to study calculus for a month before starting physics and considers switching to "Calculus Made Easy" if Spivak proves difficult.
  • There is a discussion about the differences between Spivak's rigorous approach and the more accessible nature of "Calculus Made Easy," with one participant emphasizing the need for a thorough understanding of calculus for physics.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of self-studying calculus without formal instruction, with one participant questioning the choice to self-study instead of enrolling in a class.
  • Some participants recommend alternative calculus textbooks such as Stewart or Thomas, suggesting they strike a balance between rigor and accessibility.
  • One participant shares their experience of self-studying calculus due to the timing of their school curriculum and expresses a preference for focusing on calculus over physics for the time being.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a solid understanding of calculus is important for studying physics, but there is no consensus on the best approach or textbooks to use. Multiple competing views on the suitability of different calculus resources and the timing of studying physics remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with calculus concepts, and there are differing opinions on the appropriateness of specific textbooks for beginners. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and recommendations without resolving the best path forward.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering self-study in physics and calculus, particularly those without prior exposure to calculus concepts, may find this discussion relevant.

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I am starting Calculus soon (self-study) and would like to know if I can also start Physics. I plan on using Halliday and Resnick to study Physics. For calculus I will be using Spivak's book.
 
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If you already did differentiation and integration in high school, this will work. If this is your first exposure to calculus ever... postpone physics. Also, Spivak may be difficult to learn calculus from intially unless you've seen calc in high school.
 
I have never did differentiation/integration before. I think I will study calculus for about a month before starting physics. I'll give Spivak a try since I heard a lot of good things about it. If it becomes hard to understand I plan on getting Calculus made easy by Silvanus.
 
ahmadmz said:
I have never did differentiation/integration before. I think I will study calculus for about a month before starting physics. I'll give Spivak a try since I heard a lot of good things about it. If it becomes hard to understand I plan on getting Calculus made easy by Silvanus.

Spivak and "Calculus made easy" sit on opposite side of spectrum from each other. Spivak's Calculus is a proof-oriented and mathematically rigorous textbook that is targeted for students who are interested in pure math. Therefore, this is a very challenging textbook for someone who's learning calculus for the first time. I've heard this is a good textbook as well (I've never read it, btw), but you need to put a lot of work to learn from this book.

On the other hand, "Calculus made easy" looks more like a study guide rather than a textbook. It might be a good introduction of calculus, but it is nowhere as deep as a standard calculus sequence. It seems like it's targeted for someone who's taking calculus right now and having a great difficulty, or someone who wants to understand a little bit about calculus (some basic nuts and bolts, and nothing more).

I don't know how much calculus you want to self-study, but you need to understand that those two books are for completely different types of audiences. If you're going to study physics, however, you need a lot more through book than "Calculus made easy" such as any standard first-year calculus textbooks like Stewart, Larson, and etc.

Just out of curiosity: Why are you self-studying calculus instead of taking a calculus class?
 
At the moment I'm not enrolled in any college. I am going to apply soon, classes start January i believe. So I have a few months and I want to study as much as I can.
 
Halliday and Resnick is horrible Physics book. If it was written by Jearl Walker, which he teaches at my school. Get Gianacoli its a lot better at explanations and gives good examples. Calculus self study is going to be hard. Unless your a genious in math
 
For what its worth, "Calculus for Dummies" and "How to Ace Calculus" both helped to clarify ideas a lot for me while I was taking both Calc I and II. Of course, these should only be used as a supplement to a proper text.
 
Yeah, if I were you, I'd learn some calculus first. Especially when you learn to differentiate, you'll learn how some of the most fundamental kinematic (displacement, velocity, acceleration) equations are derived.
 
I was in the exact same situation as you are. But i am self studying calculus because we don't learn calculus in school until later. I'm just 14 and the calculus we learn in high school is not deep. I would advise you to use stewart's or thomas' calculus as they're neither too rigorous nor too elementary. They also go into calc 3 so it's a good investment. I am doing calc 3 from stewart now and it's quite good. For physics i like serway's books but i started to get more interested in calculus than physics so I'm postponing physics until later.
 

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