Can I use integration by parts recursively on this?

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The discussion revolves around the application of integration by parts, specifically whether it can be used recursively on the integral of the function \(\int (xe^x)(x+1)^{-2} dx\). Participants explore the steps involved in the integration process and the validity of various transformations and simplifications.

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  • One participant questions the validity of their integration by parts approach and seeks confirmation on their calculations.
  • Another participant points out a flaw in the differentiation step of the original poster's work, suggesting that there are errors that need correction.
  • A later reply provides a detailed breakdown of the integration by parts formula, proposing specific choices for \(u\) and \(dv\) and demonstrating the integration process step-by-step.
  • Subsequent posts discuss whether the resulting expression can be simplified further, with one participant asserting that it can be simplified to \(\frac{e^x}{x+1}\).
  • Another participant confirms the simplification and provides the final boxed result, indicating a completed integration process.

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There is no clear consensus on the correctness of the initial steps taken by the original poster, as some participants identify flaws while others provide corrections. The discussion includes multiple viewpoints on the simplification of the integral, with some participants affirming the final result and others questioning earlier steps.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the correctness of earlier calculations and the implications of their choices in the integration by parts process. The discussion highlights the complexity of recursive integration and the potential for errors in differentiation and simplification.

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Can I use integration by parts recursively on this?

\int (xe^x)(x+1)^{-2}
 
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Have you tried?
 
Yeah

... = \frac{-xe^x}{x + 1} - \int \frac{e^x}{x + 1} \cdot dx

Right so far?
 
Nope.
\frac{d}{dx}xe^{x}=e^{x}(x+1)
There is at least one other flaw with your work.
 
Oops... don't know what I was thinking there. I got it now, thanks.
 


cscott said:
Can I use integration by parts recursively on this?

Affirmative.

Formula for integration by parts by Substitution Rule:
\int u dv = uv - \int v du
u = xe^x \; \; \; dv = \frac{1}{(x + 1)^2} dx
du = e^x (x + 1) dx \; \; \; v = \left( - \frac{1}{x + 1} \right)
\int (xe^x) \left[\frac{1}{(x + 1)^2} \right] dx = (xe^x) \left(-\frac{1}{x + 1} \right) - \int \left(-\frac{1}{x + 1} \right)[e^x(x + 1)] dx
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Can this

\int (xe^x) \left[\frac{1}{(x + 1)^2} \right] dx = (xe^x) \left(-\frac{1}{x + 1} \right) - \int \left(-\frac{1}{x + 1} \right)[e^x(x + 1)] dx

be further simplified to
\int (xe^x) \left[\frac{1}{(x + 1)^2} \right] dx = \frac {e^x}{x+1}
 
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Affirmative
\left(xe^x\right)\left(-\frac{1}{x + 1}\right) - \int \left(-\frac{1}{x + 1}\right)\left[e^x\left(x + 1\right)\right] dx = - \frac{xe^x}{x + 1} + \int e^x dx

- \frac{xe^x}{x + 1} + \int e^x dx = - \frac{xe^x}{x + 1} + e^x = e^x \left(- \frac{x}{x + 1} + 1\right) = \frac{e^x}{x + 1}

\boxed{\int \left(xe^x\right)\left[\frac{1}{\left(x + 1\right)^2}\right] dx = \frac{e^x}{x + 1}}
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