Can I visualize O(3) \ SO(3) in some way?

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The discussion revolves around the visualization of orthogonal matrices, specifically focusing on the distinction between matrices in the groups O(3) and SO(3). Participants explore the implications of having a determinant of -1 in 3D orthogonal matrices and how these can be represented geometrically.

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  • Some participants note that a 3×3 orthogonal matrix with determinant = 1 represents a rotation in 3D.
  • One participant suggests that a 3×3 orthogonal matrix with determinant = -1 can be visualized as a rotation followed by a reflection.
  • Another participant explains that O(3) includes both rotations and reflections, indicating that any matrix in O(3) can be decomposed into a product of a matrix in SO(3) and a reflection matrix.
  • A later reply introduces the idea that O(n) can be viewed as a semidirect product of SO(n) and O(1), highlighting the geometric structure of these groups and their components based on the determinant.

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Participants express varying perspectives on the visualization of matrices with determinant -1, with some agreeing on the decomposition of O(3) while others explore different interpretations. No consensus is reached regarding a singular visualization method.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of orthogonal matrices and their geometric interpretations, which may depend on specific definitions and contexts within linear algebra and group theory.

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Hello.

I know that a 3×3 orthogonal matrix with determinant = 1 (so a 3×3 special orthogonal matrix) is a rotation in 3D.
I was wondering if there is a 3×3 orthogonal matrix with determinant = –1 could be visualised in some way.

Thank you!
 
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BerriesAndCream said:
Hello.

I know that a 3×3 orthogonal matrix with determinant = 1 (so a 3×3 special orthogonal matrix) is a rotation in 3D.
I was wondering if there is a 3×3 orthogonal matrix with determinant = –1 could be visualised in some way.

Thank you!
It can be visualized as a rotation of reflection.
 
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BerriesAndCream said:
Hello.

I know that a 3×3 orthogonal matrix with determinant = 1 (so a 3×3 special orthogonal matrix) is a rotation in 3D.
I was wondering if there is a 3×3 orthogonal matrix with determinant = –1 could be visualised in some way.

Thank you!
SO(3) is the group of rotations in 3D (no complex numbers). O(3) is the group of rotations and reflections, you can decompose any matrix O(3) as the product of a matrix in SO(3) and a reflection matrix.
 
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BerriesAndCream said:
Hello.

I know that a 3×3 orthogonal matrix with determinant = 1 (so a 3×3 special orthogonal matrix) is a rotation in 3D.
I was wondering if there is a 3×3 orthogonal matrix with determinant = –1 could be visualised in some way.

Thank you!
$$O(n) \cong SO(n) \rtimes O(1)$$
##O(1) \in \{1, -1\}## and ##\rtimes## is the semidirect product. So in some sense ##O(n)## can just be thought of like a direct product of ##SO(n)## and ##O(1)##. Geometrically as a manifold, Lie Group, ##O(n)## breaks into two components. ##SO(n)## is the connected component containing the Identity with ##det(A) = 1## and there is an isomorphic component that doesn't contain the identity with ##det(A) = -1##. So ##O(n)## can also be thought of as two copies of ##SO(n)##.
 

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