Can induction be extended to the rationals?

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This discussion explores the extension of mathematical induction to the rational numbers, specifically focusing on the open interval (0, 1). Participants suggest starting with the proof that for an integer m where m < n, the implication P(m/n) leads to P(m/(n+1)) for all natural numbers n. This method can then be generalized to all positive rationals. The conversation highlights that while induction can be applied to any countable set, its practical applicability to the rationals is limited.

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Is there a variant form of induction to prove something about the rationals as opposed to just the natural numbers?

You could start by proving it for the open interval (0, 1) by showing that for an arbitrary integer m, m < n, P(\frac{m}{n}) \Rightarrow P(\frac{m}{n+1}), for all natural numbers n, and then extend the domain to all positive rationals.

Is this even plausible?
 
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epkid08 said:
You could start by proving it for the open interval (0, 1) by showing that for an arbitrary integer m, m < n, P(\frac{m}{n}) \Rightarrow P(\frac{m}{n+1}), for all natural numbers n, and then extend the domain to all positive rationals.

Certainly, try the dictionary or spiral ordering of rationals. For that matter, induction is applicable to any countable set.The practical appicability is limited, though.
 
epkid08 said:
Is there a variant form of induction to prove something about the rationals as opposed to just the natural numbers?

You could start by proving it for the open interval (0, 1) by showing that for an arbitrary integer m, m < n, P(\frac{m}{n}) \Rightarrow P(\frac{m}{n+1}), for all natural numbers n, and then extend the domain to all positive rationals .

Is this even plausible?
I would try proving it for the open interval (0, 1) by showing that for an arbitrary integer m, m < n, P(\frac{m}{n}) \Rightarrow P(\frac{m+1}{n}), for all natural numbers n, and then extend the starter domain to all positive rationals m/n, m<n. Where n = 1 you have the standard induction process.
 
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