Can Lorentzian Signature Metrics Always Be Continued into Euclidean Signatures?

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The discussion centers on the conditions under which Lorentzian signature metrics can be analytically continued into Euclidean signatures, particularly in the context of semiclassical and quantum gravity. Participants explore both the potential for such continuations and the possible obstructions that may arise in various scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about generic conditions that would allow for the analytic continuation of Lorentzian metrics into the Euclidean domain.
  • Others suggest that there could be multiple obstructions to this continuation, such as the absence of a well-defined timelike vector field in certain topological configurations.
  • A specific example is provided regarding poles that may develop during analytic continuation, illustrated by a metric involving a term that leads to poles when time is rotated into the complex plane.
  • Some participants express that the applicability of results from Hawking and colleagues, particularly regarding the Euclidean Schwarzschild solution, may vary on a case-by-case basis.
  • There is mention of differing views on the validity of analytic continuation in quantum gravity, with one participant expressing skepticism without providing proof.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the continuation of Lorentzian metrics into Euclidean signatures is not straightforward and may depend on specific cases. There is no consensus on the validity of analytic continuation techniques in quantum gravity, indicating ongoing debate.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations such as the dependence on specific topological configurations and the unresolved nature of certain mathematical steps involved in the analytic continuation process.

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Back in the 1980s, a lot of work (Hawking et al) was done on deriving semiclassical and quantum gravity results on spacetimes with Euclidean signature. The connection with the Lorentzian signature versions was then made by analytic continuation. Does anyone know - are there any generic conditions which can be stated which ensure that a Lorentzian signature metric can be analytically continued into the complex domain and there posess a Euclidean signature section ? Or alternatively, what are the obstructions to analytic continuation into the Euclidean domain ?
 
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sheaf said:
Back in the 1980s, a lot of work (Hawking et al) was done on deriving semiclassical and quantum gravity results on spacetimes with Euclidean signature. The connection with the Lorentzian signature versions was then made by analytic continuation. Does anyone know - are there any generic conditions which can be stated which ensure that a Lorentzian signature metric can be analytically continued into the complex domain and there posess a Euclidean signature section ? Or alternatively, what are the obstructions to analytic continuation into the Euclidean domain ?
There could be many obstructions I guess, such as the lack of an everywhere well defined timelike vectorfied which is generically the case for Morse-like ''Lorentzian'' spacetimes in topology changing configurations (such as the trousers); another obstruction could be the development of poles due to analytic continuation such as happens for the metric

- 1/(a^2 + t^2) dt^2 + dx^2

if you rotate t --> i t , then you get poles at t = +/- a.
 
Thanks. I guess it's a case by case basis. I was trying to get a feel for how typical the results obtained by Hawking and co (e.g. those for the Euclidean Schwarzschild solution) were.
 
sheaf said:
Thanks. I guess it's a case by case basis. I was trying to get a feel for how typical the results obtained by Hawking and co (e.g. those for the Euclidean Schwarzschild solution) were.
Yes, it is a case by case basis. Analytic continuation works rather well for QFT's on a fixed background spacetime and I think (not sure though) Hawking radiation on Schwarzschild has been computed with and without it (I remember the original calculation was Lorentzian). However, in quantum gravity, the technique is disputed; my personal take on it is that it is not correct, but I have no proof of this.

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