Can Modifying Gravity Solve the Dark Energy Dilemma?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the potential modification of gravity as a means to address the dark energy dilemma, exploring theoretical frameworks and implications of event horizons in cosmology. Participants reference recent papers and propose various hypotheses regarding the nature of gravity, cosmological constants, and the behavior of matter in relation to event horizons.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight recent papers by prominent cosmologists proposing modifications to the Einstein-Hilbert action to potentially eliminate the need for dark energy.
  • One participant suggests that if there is an event horizon, it could lead to a decrease in gravitational potential energy as matter disappears, which might be akin to introducing a cosmological constant.
  • Another participant questions whether the loss of mass behind an event horizon could result in particle creation throughout the universe.
  • Concerns are raised about the nature of event horizons, with some participants expressing discomfort with the idea that physical structures can cross them.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of inflation on potential energy and the creation of matter, with some participants speculating on the relationship between expansion and matter generation.
  • Some participants clarify their understanding of black holes and event horizons, noting the limitations of observation across these boundaries.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the implications of event horizons and the nature of gravity modifications. There is no consensus on the validity of the proposed ideas, and multiple competing perspectives remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various theoretical frameworks and papers, but the discussion includes unresolved assumptions about the nature of event horizons and the implications of modifications to gravity. The relationship between potential energy, mass, and cosmological constants is also not fully clarified.

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The PDF file appears to be broke. The GIF download work.
 
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Mike2 said:
In any event, if the disappearance of mass behind the horizon which causes the loss of negative gravitational potential (on average), is equal to an increase of a positive potential at each point, then does this increase in potential energy (=mass?) at each point cause particle creation in otherwise empty space? Does the information lost behind the horizon return to us in particle creation throughout the rest of space?
I wonder if the big Freeze of galaxies that leave our horizon so we can no longer see them... what effect would that have on information content of the visible universe? Is that saying that information cannot leave our visible universe? The entropy, S=Q/T. If everything freezes at the horizon, then Q tends to zero, but also T tends to zero. Would Q include the rest mass which is energy?
 
  • #35
In a universe dominated by a small cosmological constant or by eternal dark energy with equation of state w < -1/3, observers are surrounded by event horizons. The horizons limit how much of the universe the observers can ever access.
Interesting paper. The authors note that if the U continues to expand, the CMB will eventually be redshifted into the noise of the Hawking radiation at the event horizon and the information in the CMB will be lost to us.
 

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