Can Physics Explain Astrology?

  • Thread starter Thread starter quantumcarl
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Physics
Click For Summary
The discussion revolves around the potential physical influences of astrology, particularly electromagnetic fields and gravitational forces from celestial bodies. Participants express skepticism about astrology's validity, arguing that any gravitational effects are negligible and do not support astrological claims. Some acknowledge that ancient observations of celestial patterns may have practical applications, such as agricultural timing, but reject the notion that these patterns influence personality or destiny. The conversation highlights a tension between those seeking to explore possible connections and staunch skeptics who assert astrology is a pseudoscience without empirical support. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for scientific rigor when discussing astrology's claims.
  • #91
Originally posted by kyle_soule
...I certainly do not believe astrology, I posted a while back a lengthy post that outlines my position, but it is just as accurate as any method you could come up with in gauging ones future.

The odd thing is that I have seen a correlation between several personality types and their Astrological sign. My wife is a classic example of her sign of Gemini, I am a typical Libra, I know several others who fit well with theirs. I doubt that the alignment of the planets at the moment of birth could effect this, considering the variable factors that are not the same at the same month in different years and in different hemispheres. The sun and the moon are not as variable as say the position of Jupiter or its relation to Mars and Venus, etc.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #92
The moon may well have an effect, but hasn't it had it all through the pregnancy? What if the baby is born on a moving vehicle? Does the direction that the mother is facing during the delivery make a difference? What about a breach birth?

astrology is a "struggle" of sorts between the independent free will of a human being (fetuses are not considered to have this yet) vs. the "blue print" of tendencies, strengths, and weakness aka: the natal chart

EXACT time is best in order for the natal chart to be accurate

latitude and longitude are considered when calculating the place of birth, so i don't think a moving vehicle would make much of a difference...the Earth moves a whole lot faster then a car anyway...

breach birth makes no difference...as what matters is the exact time when the child is free from her mother..

libra and gemini are both "air" signs, you both are probably more intellectual then emotional, spiritual or logical...

astrology affects more of a person's pychology over a physical health, although i have studied many charts and compared to a person's health...the moon and rising sign of a person can determine vulnerable parts of the body should illness set in...
 
  • #93
Originally posted by Artman
The odd thing is that I have seen a correlation between several personality types and their Astrological sign. My wife is a classic example of her sign of Gemini, I am a typical Libra, I know several others who fit well with theirs. I doubt that the alignment of the planets at the moment of birth could effect this, considering the variable factors that are not the same at the same month in different years and in different hemispheres. The sun and the moon are not as variable as say the position of Jupiter or its relation to Mars and Venus, etc.

It is true you will notice tendencies towards personalities, but the predictions of personalities aren't always accurate, and are pretty vague and cover a large portion of the population. I think you will also find people 'forming' themselves to fit their sign, or disregarding the predictions that aren't true.
 
  • #94
Originally posted by Kerrie
astrology is a "struggle" of sorts between the independent free will of a human being (fetuses are not considered to have this yet) vs. the "blue print" of tendencies, strengths, and weakness aka: the natal chart
Kerrie, do you think astrology's departure point is the idea of reincarnation?If so, the conception (Spirit - chakratic - coupling with DNA) is the start of the vehicle. In such case growing - as putting extra material layers over the spirit - makes the spiritual entity to 'forget' his spiritual experiences of past lives. What is your opinion about this?
 
  • #95
Originally posted by Kerrie
astrology is a "struggle" of sorts between the independent free will of a human being (fetuses are not considered to have this yet) vs. the "blue print" of tendencies, strengths, and weakness aka: the natal chart

EXACT time is best in order for the natal chart to be accurate

latitude and longitude are considered when calculating the place of birth, so i don't think a moving vehicle would make much of a difference...the Earth moves a whole lot faster then a car anyway...

breach birth makes no difference...as what matters is the exact time when the child is free from her mother..

libra and gemini are both "air" signs, you both are probably more intellectual then emotional, spiritual or logical...

astrology affects more of a person's pychology over a physical health, although i have studied many charts and compared to a person's health...the moon and rising sign of a person can determine vulnerable parts of the body should illness set in...

This sort of information is invaluable to what we are trying to determine in this thread... the physics of astrology. Physics is all about positions, effects, coordinates and prediction. Simlarily, as Kerrie has illustrated... astrology tends toward these same sentiments and synergies. Thanks Kerrie.
 
  • #96
thanks russ...i also think it is important for those who are considering the validity of astrology also be as well educated in astronomy and geometry, as knowledge in both will help tremendously in understaning how astrology functions...

palestration, i am not sure i understand your suggestion completely?
 
  • #97
Originally posted by Kerrie
thanks russ...i also think it is important for those who are considering the validity of astrology also be as well educated in astronomy and geometry, as knowledge in both will help tremendously in understaning how astrology functions...

palestration, i am not sure i understand your suggestion completely?

Russ??!? You can call me qc !
 
  • #98
Originally posted by Kerrie
palestration, i am not sure i understand your suggestion completely?
Ok I rephrase, but in fact and answer also ;-)

1. What's the vision behind astrology ?
I always thought it is based on the idea of reincarnation. (which is conservation of spiritual energy).
By astrology it is thus possible to see in what phase the person (the vehicle) is in the karmatic wheel.

2. During the procreation (the act) the free spiritual vehicle connects with the matter (DNA) through the chakra-connections. From that moment spirit and body are joined.

3. After this basic joint the embryo grows. It is still conscious about it's past spiritual life and spiritual entity.

4. But the more the embryo grows the more it is involved in body-related development. Extra material layers make that the attention changes from spiritual to material focus. That's because now the conservation of the new body is most important.
That makes that the spiritual entity 'forget' his past spiritual experiences.
So the foetus has after nine months almost a 'blank' consciousness.

5. The shock/trauma of birth pushes the baby in a new reality. The moment of birth, the place of birth and corresponding positions of planets indicate the future "perception of reality".
You can say: with what colored spectacles will this person see in this life? If he or she has red glasses he or she will see everything with a red shine, etc..
The moment and place gives the Ascendant and Midheaven (most important houses), and exact aspects between the planets.

6. Because the combinations of positions of the planets are unique the same positions will occur only back in about 16,000 years. That makes us unique.

7. Of course the basic physical properties of the person started with: the DNA given by the parents.
and other factors:
8. - the moment of conception which indicates what planet trajectories in the next nine months may excite the growth phases of endoderm, mesoderm and ectoderm (see previous),
9. the seasons and light influence.
10. the food and other exogenous factors of the mother (smoking, drugs, smog, radiation, ...).

In my opinion important:
A. The dynamics of life: the social impact related to percept reality (influence of religion, family, school, ...) will also play next to point 5.
B. Astrology - and the karma - include some predestination. This is not absolute. The future has periodical degrees of self-generating repetition: the person will repeat some failures again and again, till he transcends by insight.
C. Astrology predicts that structural problems (spiritual and physical) will be excited when fundamental weak spots are attacked by specific planetary positions (cfr. shielding / lensed). This happens also in positive sense. Example: a 'bad' aspect of some planets including the Moon may repeat every seven days (two squares + one opposition + one conjunction), but also every seven years.

Of course there is more ...

What is your opinion about this?
 
  • #99
palestration~

I am not sure if I think that astrology shows the "progress" of where a person is in the karmatic wheel. I believe the energy that makes us alive is influenced by the celestial aspects, but that energy doesn't necessarily evolve, but changes. So in fact, our spiritual energy that gives us our will, our desires, etc reincarnates into another life, perhaps changed by it's previous experiences of being carnated into the physical world. Ultimately, I believe all of life is connected as one, but has it's own expression of the "The One".

Is this more or less what you were trying to communicate? The human verbal language can be a major barrier when trying to understand one another

Otherwise, I very much agree to your perception of astrology in your post.

QC~PLEASE forgive me! That was an embarrasing mistake!
 
  • #100
Originally posted by Kerrie
QC~PLEASE forgive me! That was an embarrasing mistake!

Kerrie, thar jes ain't no mistakes. Its all in them thar stars!

I'm sorry I've not come any further with this topic. Its far too sunny and warm. Its as though we're in the house of the sun these days! Things have gone swimmingly.

I think we need all the info from western and chinese, egyptian and indian, mayan and inuit astrologies (etc...) to start crossreferencing regular physics and astrophysics with those claims and possible mechanisms involved with the above mentioned astrologies.

When this compilation starts to form we may find concrete correlations and we may not. We will most certainly be able to say we looked into it!

Thanks a billion, Carl.
 

Similar threads

Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 52 ·
2
Replies
52
Views
2K
  • · Replies 40 ·
2
Replies
40
Views
5K
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
341
  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
2K
  • · Replies 42 ·
2
Replies
42
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
  • · Replies 138 ·
5
Replies
138
Views
11K