Can Planets Be Entirely Liquid and Still Viable in Space?

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The discussion explores the possibility of planets being entirely composed of liquid, examining the physical conditions required for such a state, including atmospheric presence, pressure, and temperature considerations. Participants engage with theoretical implications and practical challenges related to this concept.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether any substances can remain liquid in the vacuum of space, suggesting that an atmosphere would be necessary to prevent boiling.
  • Others propose that a planet would need to be massive enough to maintain an atmosphere, but if too large, the core might solidify.
  • One participant mentions that while common solids may sublimate slowly, a blob of liquid mercury could theoretically remain liquid for an extended period.
  • Concerns are raised about the temperature balance required for a liquid planet, as it would need to avoid freezing or boiling depending on its position relative to a star.
  • There is discussion about the vapor pressure of liquids and how it would lead to an atmosphere, regardless of how tenuous.
  • Some participants speculate that a liquid core might be possible, referencing Earth's liquid core as an example, but question the conditions under which this could occur.
  • The relationship between gas properties and their ability to interface with vacuum is examined, particularly regarding escape velocity and molecular dynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility of entirely liquid planets, with no consensus reached. There are competing ideas about the necessary conditions and implications of such planets.

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Limitations include uncertainties about the properties of materials under extreme conditions, the effects of pressure and temperature on states of matter, and the specific requirements for maintaining a liquid state in a planetary context.

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Is it physically possible to have planets consisting entirely of liquids? I don't mean an ocean world, but a planet with nothing but liquid?
 
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I don't know of any substances which can be liquid when exposed to the vacuum of space, so the planet would have to have at least some atmosphere, the vapor phase of whatever liquid makes up the rest of the planet.

I also don't really know if any substances can remain in the liquid phase under the extremely high pressure near the core of a planet; even hydrogen solidifies.

The planet would have to be massive to have strong enough gravity to keep its atmosphere; if it were too small, the atmosphere would constantly be escaping, and thus the planet would be basically boiling away all the time. If the planet is too big, though, I'd imagine that its core would end up solidifying.

So, I think the answer really depends on whether or not a suitable substance exists. Anyone else have any ideas?

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What property of gases makes them a viable interface with the vacuum?
 
EnumaElish said:
What property of gases makes them a viable interface with the vacuum?

It's more an inevitable interface with vacuum. At low pressure liquids boil to give vapour so if you had a liquid planet exposed to vacuum you would boil some of the surface off creating an atmosphere.
 
I don't see why there's a problem in principle. Technically a rock in space should be slowly sublimating, but for common solids that vapour pressure is negligible. I imagine a blob of pure liquid mercury would remain so for a long time. In practice though, the obvious problem is that liquid is an intermediate phase between solid and gas: you need to position your planet so that the average temperature is in that precise range, ensuring also that it hasn't time to freeze at night nor boil on the sun-side. A large volume to surface ratio probably helps, but then you have the pressure gradient to deal with as well.. Ultimately, the common substances of the galaxy (hydrogen and rock) don't lend themselves to this balancing act.
 
In practice you must always have somefinite vapour pressure and so will have an atmosphere however tenuous.
It's less clear (to me - I'm not a solid state person) why you can't have a liquid core as chroot says, the Earth has a liquid core but that may only be due to it not having cooled down yet.
 
EnumaElish said:
What property of gases makes them a viable interface with the vacuum?
What does one mean by viable.

Gas molecules have mass, momentum and kinetic energy/temperature.

The maximum velocity must be less than the escape velocity, which is a function of the molecular mass and local gravity field strength.

Planets could be liquid, but in order to have sufficient mass to have enough gravity to retain liquid or vapor molecules (if the temperature range is wide enough), the core or somewhere between core and surface might be solid (function of pressure and temperature).
 

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