Can Poisson's Equation Be Solved Using a Legendre Polynomial?

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The discussion revolves around solving Poisson's equation in the context of a positive charge that is Debye shielded. The original poster, Harry, expresses confusion about the solution and its relation to Legendre polynomials.

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  • Participants explore the nature of the equation, questioning whether it is indeed Poisson's equation or a Helmholtz equation. There is discussion about the dependence of the function on angular variables and the transformation of the equation into a second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE).

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct form of the equation and suggested methods for solving it, including the use of series solutions. Multiple interpretations of the equation are being explored, and there is acknowledgment of initial misunderstandings.

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There is mention of constraints related to the original poster's reference materials, which may not cover the necessary techniques for solving the ODE presented. Additionally, the discussion highlights an initial misidentification of the equation type.

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Hello,

I have a problem seeing how a solution is reached??

The expression is poisson's equation for a positive charge which is debye shielded.

\nabla . \psi = (2 / \lambda^2) \psi

The solution of which is..

<br /> \psi = (Q / 4\pi\epsilon r )* exp(-2 \sqrt{r}/\lambda) <br />

I was hoping I could express this as a Legendre polynomial but alas, this is only for Laplace's equation it seems.

How can I arrive at this solution?

Thanks,

Harry
 
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Does \psi depend upon \theta and \varphi ?
 
No \theta or \varphi dependence.
 
Then the Poisson's eq becomes a second order ODE. Which can be solved.
 
Oh :blushing: , yeah, I see that now...

Cheers!

Harry
 
What am I missing here...

The first equation expands out to...

V'' + (2/r)V' - (2/c)V = 0

Where I have replaced psi with V.

My standard repository of all mathematical knowledge (Mary L Boas. Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences) only covers ODEs which have constant coefficients.

I'm sure there must be a standard technique out there...
 
Well, first thing's first, you have the wrong equation. You have "divergence of scalar equals scalar".

As for your resulting ODE, expand \phi = \sum_j a_j r^j. That should get you a nice recursion relation for the coefficients, and then you're golden.
 
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As StatMechGuy said, the equation given isn't Poisson (Laplacian of a function equals something that can only depend on position and time)... and it's weird since a scalar function doesn't have a divergence (did you mean gradient?).
 
First of all

\nabla^2 \psi(r)=\frac{2}{\lambda^2}\psi(r)

is not Poisson equation, but a Helmholtz equation.

It can be written

\frac{1}{r}\frac{d^2}{dr^2}\left[r\psi(r)\right]=\frac{2}{\lambda^2}\psi(r)

\frac{d^2}{dr^2}\left[r\psi(r)\right]=\frac{2}{\lambda^2}\left[r\psi(r)\right]

Can you solve it now ?
 
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Ok I got it (said I... after a little delay).

Thanks Dextercioby, StatMechGuy and Ahmes, I think that's the first time I've used a series solution in anger.

Oh and yes... I initially wrote the equation down incorrectly.. well done to those who spotted it (sorry).
 

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